Damper steering assembly

John Oakes · Aug 7, 2004

Hello All.
My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
1. What will happen if I ignore it.
2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
4. How easy it to replace by myself.

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John N Oakes
Manchester, England.

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Nicknelsonleeds · Aug 7, 2004

> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
>1. What will happen if I ignore it.
>2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
>3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
>4. How easy it to replace by myself.
>

Since it's trivially easy to replace, the answers to 1, 2 and 3
are irrelevant.

Otherwise, buy a new damper, it should come with a load
of rubber bushes and dished washers.

Undo the nut at each end of the old assembly, and remove it
taking note of the order and orientation of the bushes etc.

Put the new one on.

You might need something to stop the damper rotating
while undoing the nuts at each end. Almost anything
like a Stilson, pipe wrench of even sortts of oil filter
wrenches will do.

Nick

John Oakes · Aug 7, 2004

Nicknelsonleeds wrote:
>> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
>>1. What will happen if I ignore it.
>>2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
>>3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
>>4. How easy it to replace by myself.
>>
>
>
> Since it's trivially easy to replace, the answers to 1, 2 and 3
> are irrelevant.
>
> Otherwise, buy a new damper, it should come with a load
> of rubber bushes and dished washers.
>
> Undo the nut at each end of the old assembly, and remove it
> taking note of the order and orientation of the bushes etc.
>
> Put the new one on.
>
> You might need something to stop the damper rotating
> while undoing the nuts at each end. Almost anything
> like a Stilson, pipe wrench of even sortts of oil filter
> wrenches will do.
>
> Nick
Thanks for the advice, only on snag I do not have a replacement as it
just gone this afternoon. Would this still be road worthy with leaking
until I get a new one.
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-
Thank You

John N Oakes
Manchester, England.

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Richard Brookman · Aug 7, 2004

John Oakes wrote:
> Hello All.
> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
> 1. What will happen if I ignore it.
> 2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
> 3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
> 4. How easy it to replace by myself.

It would help to know what vehicle, but basically:

1. It will get worse. Eventually, dangerously so. This will probably
happen quite slowly.
2. The steering damper helps to keep things in a straight line when you hit
ruts, holes etc., and helps to stop the whole plot vibrating at higher
speeds. If your roads are potholed, or you drive at more than 30mph, then
you need one.
3. As it gets worse, look out for violent kicking at low speeds if you hit a
kerb or a pothole, and shimmying and shaking at higher speeds.
4. Very. Buy one, take off the old one (2 bolts, one at each end), prime
the new one (pump it in and out a few times, and when you see how hard it is
to do this you will realise that it's actually doing a serious job), bolt it
in.

If it's leaking, it's already failed and will get worse. They don't get
better on their own. When I had one fail on a 90, I tried driving it for a
while without. Got about 100 yards before I turned back. Not recommended.

--
--
Rich

Land Rovers
Boat
Dog
Wife
Kids - in that order

Richard Brookman · Aug 7, 2004

John Oakes wrote:
>Would this still be road worthy with leaking
> until I get a new one.

Yes, just don't wait too long! ;-)

--
--
Rich

Land Rovers
Boat
Dog
Wife
Kids - in that order

Nicknelsonleeds · Aug 7, 2004

>Thanks for the advice, only on snag I do not have a replacement as it
>just gone this afternoon. Would this still be road worthy with leaking
>until I get a new one.

It's hard to say without knowing exactly what's gone
wrong with it internally.

If you _have_ to drive it, I'd take it off altogether. The
steering will probably feel very 'lively' and I wouldn't
want to take it far or fast, but this seems to be safer than
leaving it on and having it seize up. Not likely perhaps,
but the consequences could be unfortunate.

Nick

John Oakes · Aug 7, 2004

Richard Brookman wrote:

> John Oakes wrote:
>
>>Hello All.
>> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
>>1. What will happen if I ignore it.
>>2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
>>3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
>>4. How easy it to replace by myself.
>
>
> It would help to know what vehicle, but basically:
>
> 1. It will get worse. Eventually, dangerously so. This will probably
> happen quite slowly.
> 2. The steering damper helps to keep things in a straight line when you hit
> ruts, holes etc., and helps to stop the whole plot vibrating at higher
> speeds. If your roads are potholed, or you drive at more than 30mph, then
> you need one.
> 3. As it gets worse, look out for violent kicking at low speeds if you hit a
> kerb or a pothole, and shimmying and shaking at higher speeds.
> 4. Very. Buy one, take off the old one (2 bolts, one at each end), prime
> the new one (pump it in and out a few times, and when you see how hard it is
> to do this you will realise that it's actually doing a serious job), bolt it
> in.
>
> If it's leaking, it's already failed and will get worse. They don't get
> better on their own. When I had one fail on a 90, I tried driving it for a
> while without. Got about 100 yards before I turned back. Not recommended.
>
Thanks to everyone. I feel my safest option is to await for the new one.

--
-
Thank You

John N Oakes
Manchester, England.

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! Landrover 90 2286cc 1984 !
! Atari/Win/Mac User !
=============================

Austin Shackles · Aug 7, 2004

On or around Sat, 07 Aug 2004 16:17:56 +0100, John Oakes
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Hello All.
> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
>1. What will happen if I ignore it.
>2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
>3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
>4. How easy it to replace by myself.

wot they said. Mind, I had one on the 110 which did absolutely sod-all, and
it was only a problem when you hit a bump.

much better when replaced. Paddocks/Craddocks do 'em for about 12 quid or
something, and since it's an easy replacement, just change it.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"If you cannot mould yourself as you would wish, how can you expect
other people to be entirely to your liking?"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xvi.

Paul Everett · Aug 8, 2004

John Oakes wrote:

> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
> 1. What will happen if I ignore it.
> 2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
> 3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
> 4. How easy it to replace by myself.

If the rest of your steering is in good condition, you don't actually
need a damper, so you could just consider removing it. Take it steady
for a bit though in case you find out there is some wear elsewhere in
the system.

Paul

--
Paul Everett
repton at repton dot org
http://www.repton.org/

Richard Brookman · Aug 8, 2004

Nicknelsonleeds wrote:
>> Thanks for the advice, only on snag I do not have a replacement as it
>> just gone this afternoon. Would this still be road worthy with
>> leaking until I get a new one.
>
> It's hard to say without knowing exactly what's gone
> wrong with it internally.
>
> If you _have_ to drive it, I'd take it off altogether. The
> steering will probably feel very 'lively' and I wouldn't
> want to take it far or fast, but this seems to be safer than
> leaving it on and having it seize up. Not likely perhaps,
> but the consequences could be unfortunate.
>
> Nick

Agreed, although it's unlikely to sieze if it's just started leaking. The
only ones I have had siezed (shockers, not steering dampers) have been when
the oil leaked out months ago and water has got in and rusted the innards.
I would say proceed with care and replace at the first opportunity.

--
--
Rich

Land Rovers
Boat
Dog
Wife
Kids - in that order

Austin Shackles · Aug 7, 2004

On or around Sat, 07 Aug 2004 16:17:56 +0100, John Oakes
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Hello All.
> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
>1. What will happen if I ignore it.
>2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
>3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
>4. How easy it to replace by myself.

wot they said. Mind, I had one on the 110 which did absolutely sod-all, and
it was only a problem when you hit a bump.

much better when replaced. Paddocks/Craddocks do 'em for about 12 quid or
something, and since it's an easy replacement, just change it.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"If you cannot mould yourself as you would wish, how can you expect
other people to be entirely to your liking?"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xvi.

Nicknelsonleeds · Aug 7, 2004

> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
>1. What will happen if I ignore it.
>2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
>3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
>4. How easy it to replace by myself.
>

Since it's trivially easy to replace, the answers to 1, 2 and 3
are irrelevant.

Otherwise, buy a new damper, it should come with a load
of rubber bushes and dished washers.

Undo the nut at each end of the old assembly, and remove it
taking note of the order and orientation of the bushes etc.

Put the new one on.

You might need something to stop the damper rotating
while undoing the nuts at each end. Almost anything
like a Stilson, pipe wrench of even sortts of oil filter
wrenches will do.

Nick

Richard Brookman · Aug 7, 2004

John Oakes wrote:
>Would this still be road worthy with leaking
> until I get a new one.

Yes, just don't wait too long! ;-)

--
--
Rich

Land Rovers
Boat
Dog
Wife
Kids - in that order

Richard Brookman · Aug 8, 2004

Nicknelsonleeds wrote:
>> Thanks for the advice, only on snag I do not have a replacement as it
>> just gone this afternoon. Would this still be road worthy with
>> leaking until I get a new one.
>
> It's hard to say without knowing exactly what's gone
> wrong with it internally.
>
> If you _have_ to drive it, I'd take it off altogether. The
> steering will probably feel very 'lively' and I wouldn't
> want to take it far or fast, but this seems to be safer than
> leaving it on and having it seize up. Not likely perhaps,
> but the consequences could be unfortunate.
>
> Nick

Agreed, although it's unlikely to sieze if it's just started leaking. The
only ones I have had siezed (shockers, not steering dampers) have been when
the oil leaked out months ago and water has got in and rusted the innards.
I would say proceed with care and replace at the first opportunity.

--
--
Rich

Land Rovers
Boat
Dog
Wife
Kids - in that order

John Oakes · Aug 7, 2004

Nicknelsonleeds wrote:
>> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
>>1. What will happen if I ignore it.
>>2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
>>3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
>>4. How easy it to replace by myself.
>>
>
>
> Since it's trivially easy to replace, the answers to 1, 2 and 3
> are irrelevant.
>
> Otherwise, buy a new damper, it should come with a load
> of rubber bushes and dished washers.
>
> Undo the nut at each end of the old assembly, and remove it
> taking note of the order and orientation of the bushes etc.
>
> Put the new one on.
>
> You might need something to stop the damper rotating
> while undoing the nuts at each end. Almost anything
> like a Stilson, pipe wrench of even sortts of oil filter
> wrenches will do.
>
> Nick
Thanks for the advice, only on snag I do not have a replacement as it
just gone this afternoon. Would this still be road worthy with leaking
until I get a new one.
--
-
Thank You

John N Oakes
Manchester, England.

=============================
! doyeneatzetnetdotcodotuk !
! Landrover 90 2286cc 1984 !
! Atari/Win/Mac User !
=============================

Nicknelsonleeds · Aug 7, 2004

>Thanks for the advice, only on snag I do not have a replacement as it
>just gone this afternoon. Would this still be road worthy with leaking
>until I get a new one.

It's hard to say without knowing exactly what's gone
wrong with it internally.

If you _have_ to drive it, I'd take it off altogether. The
steering will probably feel very 'lively' and I wouldn't
want to take it far or fast, but this seems to be safer than
leaving it on and having it seize up. Not likely perhaps,
but the consequences could be unfortunate.

Nick

Richard Brookman · Aug 7, 2004

John Oakes wrote:
> Hello All.
> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
> 1. What will happen if I ignore it.
> 2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
> 3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
> 4. How easy it to replace by myself.

It would help to know what vehicle, but basically:

1. It will get worse. Eventually, dangerously so. This will probably
happen quite slowly.
2. The steering damper helps to keep things in a straight line when you hit
ruts, holes etc., and helps to stop the whole plot vibrating at higher
speeds. If your roads are potholed, or you drive at more than 30mph, then
you need one.
3. As it gets worse, look out for violent kicking at low speeds if you hit a
kerb or a pothole, and shimmying and shaking at higher speeds.
4. Very. Buy one, take off the old one (2 bolts, one at each end), prime
the new one (pump it in and out a few times, and when you see how hard it is
to do this you will realise that it's actually doing a serious job), bolt it
in.

If it's leaking, it's already failed and will get worse. They don't get
better on their own. When I had one fail on a 90, I tried driving it for a
while without. Got about 100 yards before I turned back. Not recommended.

--
--
Rich

Land Rovers
Boat
Dog
Wife
Kids - in that order

Richard Brookman · Aug 7, 2004

John Oakes wrote:
>Would this still be road worthy with leaking
> until I get a new one.

Yes, just don't wait too long! ;-)

--
--
Rich

Land Rovers
Boat
Dog
Wife
Kids - in that order

Paul Everett · Aug 8, 2004

John Oakes wrote:

> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
> 1. What will happen if I ignore it.
> 2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
> 3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
> 4. How easy it to replace by myself.

If the rest of your steering is in good condition, you don't actually
need a damper, so you could just consider removing it. Take it steady
for a bit though in case you find out there is some wear elsewhere in
the system.

Paul

--
Paul Everett
repton at repton dot org
http://www.repton.org/

John Oakes · Aug 7, 2004

Richard Brookman wrote:

> John Oakes wrote:
>
>>Hello All.
>> My Damper Steering Assembly just started leaking.
>>1. What will happen if I ignore it.
>>2. What effect does it have on roads like manchester.
>>3. What should I aware of beside the leaking.
>>4. How easy it to replace by myself.
>
>
> It would help to know what vehicle, but basically:
>
> 1. It will get worse. Eventually, dangerously so. This will probably
> happen quite slowly.
> 2. The steering damper helps to keep things in a straight line when you hit
> ruts, holes etc., and helps to stop the whole plot vibrating at higher
> speeds. If your roads are potholed, or you drive at more than 30mph, then
> you need one.
> 3. As it gets worse, look out for violent kicking at low speeds if you hit a
> kerb or a pothole, and shimmying and shaking at higher speeds.
> 4. Very. Buy one, take off the old one (2 bolts, one at each end), prime
> the new one (pump it in and out a few times, and when you see how hard it is
> to do this you will realise that it's actually doing a serious job), bolt it
> in.
>
> If it's leaking, it's already failed and will get worse. They don't get
> better on their own. When I had one fail on a 90, I tried driving it for a
> while without. Got about 100 yards before I turned back. Not recommended.
>
Thanks to everyone. I feel my safest option is to await for the new one.

--
-
Thank You

John N Oakes
Manchester, England.

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