Cold starting

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Splasher

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Hi all,
I,m sure i,ve posted about this before but cant remember where it is so here we go again.
I,ve got a problem with cold starting on a T reg(98) TD5.
It has to have some throttle first thing in the morning to get started but after that it starts fine all day...
Any info would be great appreciated.
Forgive me for repeating myself...Schematics would be help full too.:confused::confused:
Thanks in advance..:blabla::blabla::blabla:
 
Define 'cold' starting it hasn't been that cold really and how much throttle is 'some'.

May be a temperature sensor issue not supplying the right info to the ECU - have you cleaned or replaced the MAP sensor in the inlet manifold (it has a temperatures sensor too). The other engine temperature sensor (located in the coolant outlet elbow on the top of the exhaust side of the engine) is used to manage the glow plug timers and also fuelling calculations so this is also a suspect if you have a multimeter these are the values that it should present :-

-10°C = 9397ohms
0°C = 5896ohms
10°C = 3792
30°C = 1707
50°C = 834.0
70°C = 435.7
90°C = 243.2
110°C = 144.2
130°C = 89.3

I'd start with the above (for the price I'd just replace it) then move on to the heater plugs and associated connections, cold crank current on battery - I have a diesel generator that will crank but not start unless the battery is 100% - doesn't spin over fast enough to get the required compression. Remember too that the heater plugs are competing with the starter - even when the light is out they are still active and remain so for up to five minutes post startup.

Take care testing heater plugs they get seriously hot you need some special gear to test them because you need to measure current whilst observing their operation. The glow plug tip should start to glow after 5 seconds.The tip of the plug must glow first, if it fails to do so,replace glow plug, the initial
current draw should be 25 amps falling to 12 amps after 20 seconds.

When running what is throttle response like i.e does the engine accelerate immediately - or after some travel? - throttle sensor?
 
^^^ good points

...you can also run a purging procedure first thing in the morning before you try to start it: ignition on pos II, 5 x depress the throttle, MIL will flash, when it stops flashing try to start it... (dont touch the throttle while you crank it) ...if it will start easy this way, the cheapest is to replace the air bleed valve http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/1597824-post8.html
...if the symptom will persist IMO it's time for new injector washers and seals

some info here too http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f50/cold-starting-td5-187787.html
 
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^^^ good points

...you can also run a purging procedure first thing in the morning before you try to start it: ignition on pos II, 5 x depress the throttle, MIL will flash, when it stops flashing try to start it... (dont touch the throttle while you crank it) ...if it will start easy this way, the cheapest is to replace the air bleed valve http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/1597824-post8.html
...if the symptom will persist IMO it's time for new injector washers and seals

some info here too http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f50/cold-starting-td5-187787.html
Already done injector washers and seals when i did head gasket...Renewed the fuel pressure regulator to. Gonna do air bleed valve and non return valve next week..:D
 
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