Clarkson on the Vine Radio 2 lunchtime today

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Alan Mudd

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Listening to Radio 2 today listening to Jeremy Vine.

They'd trailed the fact that Clarkson would be on today, discussing the trip
up the mountain in the new defender.

I thought this should be fun, what I wasn't expecting was the single most
unreasonable chap Vine has ever managed to find.

This guy was plain rude and liked the sound of his own voice even more than
Jeremy Vine does.

Anyone else hear it, even Clarkson, who's used to ramblers (of whom he
refers to as members of the new Communist party:)) was a little lost for
words.

Muddy



 
Alan Mudd wrote:
> Listening to Radio 2 today listening to Jeremy Vine.
>
> They'd trailed the fact that Clarkson would be on today, discussing
> the trip up the mountain in the new defender.


No, missed it.

>
> I thought this should be fun, what I wasn't expecting was the single
> most unreasonable chap Vine has ever managed to find.


Whom, Clarkson?

>
> This guy was plain rude and liked the sound of his own voice even
> more than Jeremy Vine does.


I hate Vine.

>
> Anyone else hear it, even Clarkson, who's used to ramblers (of whom he
> refers to as members of the new Communist party:)) was a little lost
> for words.


Sorry mate, you've lost me here. Are you berating JC, JV or was there another contributor?

Nige

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Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Range Rover Classic (Monty)

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its very very funny

the "environmentalist" is an idiot and came across as such, they didnt
really address the issue tho! Was just a funny argument!

Listen to it on the website again... Good for a laugh!

Dan

"Alan Mudd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Listening to Radio 2 today listening to Jeremy Vine.
>
> They'd trailed the fact that Clarkson would be on today, discussing the

trip
> up the mountain in the new defender.
>
> I thought this should be fun, what I wasn't expecting was the single most
> unreasonable chap Vine has ever managed to find.
>
> This guy was plain rude and liked the sound of his own voice even more

than
> Jeremy Vine does.
>
> Anyone else hear it, even Clarkson, who's used to ramblers (of whom he
> refers to as members of the new Communist party:)) was a little lost for
> words.
>
> Muddy
>
>
>



 
Alan Mudd vaguely muttered something like ...
> Listening to Radio 2 today listening to Jeremy Vine.
>
> They'd trailed the fact that Clarkson would be on today, discussing the
> trip up the mountain in the new defender.
>
> I thought this should be fun, what I wasn't expecting was the single most
> unreasonable chap Vine has ever managed to find.
>
> This guy was plain rude and liked the sound of his own voice even more
> than Jeremy Vine does.
>
> Anyone else hear it, even Clarkson, who's used to ramblers (of whom he
> refers to as members of the new Communist party:)) was a little lost for
> words.
>
> Muddy


Heheheh, an environ MENTALIST of the first water.

Probably, in real life, a most excellent chap, but in this interview he did
more to put people off ever listening to environ MENTALISTS ever again .. ;)

The programme is on BBC Radio 2 website, Jeremy Vine, Tuesday, about 30+
minutes into it .. Well worth a listen to.

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/vine/

Click on "Listen Again Tues" then advance 30 mins

Fantastic ten mins of radio.


--
"Reason has always existed,
but not always in a reasonable form"
Groucho

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...
well, I have others"
Karl

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Alan Mudd wrote:
>> Listening to Radio 2 today listening to Jeremy Vine.
>>
>> They'd trailed the fact that Clarkson would be on today, discussing
>> the trip up the mountain in the new defender.

>
> No, missed it.
>
>>
>> I thought this should be fun, what I wasn't expecting was the single
>> most unreasonable chap Vine has ever managed to find.

>
> Whom, Clarkson?
>
>>
>> This guy was plain rude and liked the sound of his own voice even
>> more than Jeremy Vine does.

>
> I hate Vine.
>
>>
>> Anyone else hear it, even Clarkson, who's used to ramblers (of whom he
>> refers to as members of the new Communist party:)) was a little lost
>> for words.

>
> Sorry mate, you've lost me here. Are you berating JC, JV or was there
> another contributor?
>
> Nige
>
> --
> Subaru WRX (The Bitch)
>
> Range Rover Classic (Monty)
>
> __
>



 
Highbeam wrote:

>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/vine/
>
> Click on "Listen Again Tues" then advance 30 mins
>
> Fantastic ten mins of radio.


Brilliant - Clarkson is a bit of a pillock at times (he doesn't like
motorbikes) but 'George' did appear to be a complete loony and showed
up the ramblers for the kill-joys they are.

X-Post to uk.rec.rambling anyone?
 
On or around Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:20:17 +0000 (UTC), "Alan Mudd"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Listening to Radio 2 today listening to Jeremy Vine.
>
>They'd trailed the fact that Clarkson would be on today, discussing the trip
>up the mountain in the new defender.
>
>I thought this should be fun, what I wasn't expecting was the single most
>unreasonable chap Vine has ever managed to find.
>
>This guy was plain rude and liked the sound of his own voice even more than
>Jeremy Vine does.


George wossisface did come over as a complete tit, I have to say. Clarkson
made the point that the mountain in question is private land, and as such, I
daresay they did nothing illegal, unless it happens to be an SSSI or
something.

Trouble is, I actually agree in principle with a lot of what the
environmentalists are saying, except that they say it in such an extreme,
biassed and generally stupid way that the majority will dismiss them as
idiots. The bloke in question hasn't done anything IMHO to further his
cause, he just comes over as a rude pillock who's not listen and who results
to personal insults to try and make his point.

And it's all very well to spout about fuel efficiency and fossil fuels and
so forth, but the plain fact is that if you banned the use of fossil fuels
in cars and lorries today, society as we know it would collapse overnight
and doubtless about half the world population or more would soon be dead
from one cause or another. The problem is, as environmentalists point out,
huge, but as such it takes a huge investment of time, effort and money to
solve. You can't do it by spouting on about wind power, fuel-cell cars and
other crap, because none of these alternatives, all of which are valid to a
point, are anything like large enough scale to solve the problem. If you
covered this country with windmills, thereby buggering the fragile
environments on scottish mountains pretty comprehensively, you'd still not
reliable generate enough power to allow removal of the existing fossil and
nuclear power generation systems.

There was a website I found a bit back, which discussed the possibility of
converting the US road transport entirely to Hydrogen. disregarding the
amount of fresh water you'd have to supply to crack into H and O, to produce
enough electricity to electrolyse the water would at the time have required
something 3000 sq. miles of solar panels, wind generators covering 2
medium-sized states, or one largeish nuclear power station.

 
"Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> > This guy was plain rude and liked the sound of his own voice even more
> > than Jeremy Vine does.
> >
> > Anyone else hear it, even Clarkson, who's used to ramblers (of whom he
> > refers to as members of the new Communist party:)) was a little lost for
> > words.
> >
> > Muddy

>


George Monbiot - mental environist, writer and columnist for which
national newspaper? No prizes, it's the ...








>>>








>>>






GRAUNIAD!!!

Nuff said. In any debate, manners are important, and letting your
opponent say his piece is part of the game - hence the need for
Dimbleby on Question Time. Mongliot just made a couple of cheap cock
jokes and then shouted Clarkson down (not an easy thing to do) time
after time. In my book, the guy lost the argument there and then.
And Jeremy Vine was a lousy referee.

Rich
 
In news:[email protected],
Mr.Nice. <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> blithered:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:27:35 +0000, Geoff <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:53:35 +0000, Austin Shackles
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> ->On or around Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:20:17 +0000 (UTC), "Alan Mudd"
>> -><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>> ->
>> ->>Listening to Radio 2 today listening to Jeremy Vine.
>>
>> From Monbiot's web site.
>>
>> http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/07/06/war-x-4/
>>
>> I got as far as him blaming the Iraq war on 4x4's before I gave up.

>
> blaming the iraq war on 4x4's hmm. fukkim, eeejit.
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)


Bearing in mind that is is f' Ramblers and the like that destroyed the Penine way,
requiring the use of a multiplicity of 4x4s to repair it!


--
The friend of my friend is my enemy?

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
On or around Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:39:40 -0000, "GbH"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Bearing in mind that is is f' Ramblers and the like that destroyed the Penine way,
>requiring the use of a multiplicity of 4x4s to repair it!


Commies!! burn 'em, all of 'em!!!

 

"Geoff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:53:35 +0000, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ->On or around Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:20:17 +0000 (UTC), "Alan Mudd"
> -><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> ->
> ->>Listening to Radio 2 today listening to Jeremy Vine.
>
> From Monbiot's web site.
>
> http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/07/06/war-x-4/
>
> I got as far as him blaming the Iraq war on 4x4's before I gave up.
>
> --
> Geoff
> www.anoraks.uk.net



The man, who is an outstanding self publicist, is undoubtedly nearly a
lunatic. The border between genius and lunacy is pretty insecure and George
is obviously just the wrong side of it. Perhaps he can't help it because he
had cerebral malaria at some stage in his life. Then again I don't know him
personally so maybe he has always been a loudmouthed opinionated pain in the
arse who adds two and two to make half a dozen.

Huw


 
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:16:36 -0000, "Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

->Then again I don't know him
->personally so maybe he has always been a loudmouthed opinionated pain in the
->arse who adds two and two to make half a dozen.

Sounds like he should fit right into this group then :))

--
Geoff
www.anoraks.uk.net
 

"Geoff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:16:36 -0000, "Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> ->Then again I don't know him
> ->personally so maybe he has always been a loudmouthed opinionated pain in
> the
> ->arse who adds two and two to make half a dozen.
>
> Sounds like he should fit right into this group then :))
>


I'd send him to alt.autos.toyota where he would not even be noticed amongst
the crowd.
Second thoughts, he might get lynched by the extreme right.

Huw


 
In message <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> writes
>On or around Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:39:40 -0000, "GbH"
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>Bearing in mind that is is f' Ramblers and the like that destroyed the
>>Penine way,
>>requiring the use of a multiplicity of 4x4s to repair it!

>
>Commies!! burn 'em, all of 'em!!!
>

Their glorious leader is on "I'm a celebrity - well f******* well stay
there" shortly.
--
hugh
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"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote

> Trouble is, I actually agree in principle with a lot of what the
> environmentalists are saying, except that they say it in such an

extreme,
> biassed and generally stupid way that the majority will dismiss them

as
> idiots.


A very sencible set of comments Austin in your posting. I also agree,
that I'm all for the principles of 'greens' and 'environmentalists',
but they are almost without exception, a load of prats.

Unfortunatly they are spoiling the quality of life for so many. I'm
now a retired green laner, however I can remember when I was 19 or 20
riding down many green lanes. I did not know what a BOAT was other
than for floating on the water at that time but there was no real
damage done and no anti-folk about.

> If you
> covered this country with windmills, thereby buggering the fragile
> environments on scottish mountains pretty comprehensively, you'd

still not
> reliable generate enough power to allow removal of the existing

fossil and
> nuclear power generation systems.


Also at the same time (when I was 17- 24) I worked in the nuclear
industry and it was, and still is, one of the safest industries to
work in. Nuclear power is the cleanest fuel and is what drives all
solar panels and wind generators, if you think about it!

But driving a 'car of the year', with it's petrol and electric motors
is what these folk want, as the elecrtric motor does not produce
polution like our Landys do. But they forget that moving two motors
about, increases the weight and hence the fuel used. It also
generates more polution to charge their 'clean' battery, remember
output from a battery is always less then the input. The car will
also cause more polution to manufacture.

But we all know who will win in the end.

Reg.



 
Reg wrote:
> "Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>>If you
>>covered this country with windmills, thereby buggering the fragile
>>environments on scottish mountains pretty comprehensively, you'd

> still not
>>reliable generate enough power to allow removal of the existing

> fossil and
>>nuclear power generation systems.

>
> Also at the same time (when I was 17- 24) I worked in the nuclear
> industry and it was, and still is, one of the safest industries to
> work in. Nuclear power is the cleanest fuel and is what drives all
> solar panels and wind generators, if you think about it!


Absolutely! I still think nuclear fission is, at the moment, the overall
best power source available to us, with the only real problem the used
fuel pellets.

As for wind farms... on a small scale I think they're useful, but
large-scale... have the environmentalists not considered wind patterns?
What happens if we take too much energy out of the major wind channels?
Same with wave power - what happens if we take too much power out of the
gulf stream?

They haven't thought it through.

 
In message <[email protected]>, Reg
<[email protected]> writes
>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Trouble is, I actually agree in principle with a lot of what the
>> environmentalists are saying, except that they say it in such an

>extreme,
>> biassed and generally stupid way that the majority will dismiss them

>as
>> idiots.

>
>A very sencible set of comments Austin in your posting. I also agree,
>that I'm all for the principles of 'greens' and 'environmentalists',
>but they are almost without exception, a load of prats.
>
>Unfortunatly they are spoiling the quality of life for so many. I'm
>now a retired green laner, however I can remember when I was 19 or 20
>riding down many green lanes. I did not know what a BOAT was other
>than for floating on the water at that time but there was no real
>damage done and no anti-folk about.
>
>> If you
>> covered this country with windmills, thereby buggering the fragile
>> environments on scottish mountains pretty comprehensively, you'd

>still not
>> reliable generate enough power to allow removal of the existing

>fossil and
>> nuclear power generation systems.

>
>Also at the same time (when I was 17- 24) I worked in the nuclear
>industry and it was, and still is, one of the safest industries to
>work in. Nuclear power is the cleanest fuel and is what drives all
>solar panels and wind generators, if you think about it!
>
>But driving a 'car of the year', with it's petrol and electric motors
>is what these folk want, as the elecrtric motor does not produce
>polution like our Landys do. But they forget that moving two motors
>about, increases the weight and hence the fuel used. It also
>generates more polution to charge their 'clean' battery, remember
>output from a battery is always less then the input. The car will
>also cause more polution to manufacture.
>
>But we all know who will win in the end.
>
>Reg.
>
>
>

Not quite right. The battery is charged when braking (and thus assists
the slow down reducing wear on the breaks) and also when the petrol
engine is cruising i.e. running at its most efficient. When the petrol
engine is pulling hard, especially at start off and is running at its
most inefficient the electric motors assist. Hence the overall energy
consumption is diminished. There is no external charging of batteries
required AIUI.
--
hugh
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