Cheap veggie oil

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barmatt said:
Veg will clean the whole system through so no need for 2 stroke, buy a few spare filters before you start using it as you'll need to change it a couple of times in the beginning.
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Thanks . I have new tank and lines so hopefully wont be to much of a problem.
 
barmatt said:
Do it, I did it for years and saved loads on fuel (don't currently have a doozil motor) but even if you buy veg oil from cash & carry it's still less than £1 a litre.

Oh and a 200tdi will run on a much higher ratio of veg than a td5, in fact it will happily run 100% veg in warm weather.;)
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As soon as I have it on the road give it a go. Must start stocking up on vegi oil tomorrow.
 
Grimmer said:
HM Revenue & Customs

My head hurts now:eek::eek::eek:, I think though that there used to be a different rate of duty for SVO and UCO, but now they make no distinction..... I think:confused::confused:
So they way I understand it, is that we can all carry on:cool::cool::cool::cool:
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That is the gray area, got to keep records of where you got the oil from, and is supposed to be used veggie oil. New stuff from the store could become a issue(maybe) as veggie oil is used in bio diesel and they have to pay tax on that. The fuel makers could call foul about people buying from grocery store source as they avoid taxes? Just saying
 
Thor1950 said:
That is the gray area, got to keep records of where you got the oil from, and is supposed to be used veggie oil. New stuff from the store could become a issue(maybe) as veggie oil is used in bio diesel and they have to pay tax on that. The fuel makers could call foul about people buying from grocery store source as they avoid taxes? Just saying
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But all that only applies if you make/use or intend to make/use more than 2500l
 
Seen this on the Glencoyne Engineering website with regards to 200 and 300tdi injection pumps. Made me a lot more wary about putting any old shoite in my tank -

'More recently, and coinciding with the peak of the great biodiesel craze, I had a spate of pump failures due to serious corrosion of the internal parts. Something sitting in a bath of diesel should not rust, and the only possible cause I can think of is badly-processed biodiesel or cheap vegetable oil with a high water content. I haven't seen one of these failures for a while now, but it has made me very wary of recommending the use of vegetable oil (either virgin or recycled). A reconditioned pump at £600 will take a big chunk out of the cost saving on the fuel.'
 
Thor1950 said:
That is the gray area, got to keep records of where you got the oil from, and is supposed to be used veggie oil. New stuff from the store could become a issue(maybe) as veggie oil is used in bio diesel and they have to pay tax on that. The fuel makers could call foul about people buying from grocery store source as they avoid taxes? Just saying
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what about VAT at 20% is that not a form of taxation??
 
blue beasty said:
But all that only applies if you make/use or intend to make/use more than 2500l
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it says if under need to send form in they send back, you have to keep records for 6 years

What will small producers have to do?
All registered producers are being sent a return as usual for the month of June. Those we think likely to be below the production threshold over the next 12 months are receiving a letter with this return. The letter asks them to declare whether they expect to produce more or less than 2,500 litres in the coming year. They should complete the declaration at the foot of the letter and send it back along with their completed return by the due date.

Those who declare that they expect to produce less will be deregistered and will not receive any further returns. We will refer to producers operating below the threshold as “exempt” producers. They must, however, contact us to enter their premises if they subsequently exceed 2,500 litres in a 12 month period, or if, at any time, they expect to exceed this amount within the next 12 months. Exempt producers are also required to keep simple production records (date of production and quantity produced, in litres) on an ongoing basis, and retain these for six years. Production levels should be checked at the end of each month. If they find that they need to enter their premises, they should contact the HMRC National Advice Service on 0845 010 9000.

Those who declare that they expect to produce more than 2,500 litres over the next 12 months will remain registered and will receive quarterly returns, the first one being for the quarter 1 July to 30 September 2007.
Subsequent quarterly returns will be issued for the periods 1 October to 31 December; 1 January to 31 March and 1 April to 30 June. Returns will be issued and should be received in the last month of the quarter (September, December, March and June) for completion and payment by the due dates, which will be no later than the fifteenth day (or the last business day before the fifteenth day) of October, January, April and July.

Queries should be directed to the National Advice Service (NAS) on 0845 010 9000, quoting the number of this Brief.
 
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