Charging parked vehicles

On or around Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:53:37 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>I thnk you have hit the nail on the head - the real problem is that
>people *cannot afford* to get someone in, so they will leave dodgy
>wiring alone rather than fix it themselves (which is safer, I wonder?)
>or just plug more and more leads into sockets, which we have been told
>for years (guess who by? Could it the very same Government?) is
>pretty dangerous. In other words, far from inceasing saftey this
>lastest stupidity will will reduce it. Nice one (again) Tony!


I assume the govt. profit from it somehow. Like you say - people will just
buy more adapters and overload 'em.
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In message <[email protected]>, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> writes
>On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:22:38 +1300, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> yebbut, you'd still deny all knowledge and swear blind that it was like that
>>> when you bought it, wouldn't you?
>>
>>Absolutely.
>
>I better get it done quick before i hand over the money then
>
>I wonder what the exact definition of electrical work is.. Could
>anybody run the cables and put sockets in as long as a proper
>'lectrician did the final connections and made it live.
>
>I should be able to add ornamental electrical sockets to my house if i
>want to
AIUI you can change an existing socket, but not install a new circuit,
but I could be wrong.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

Well I remember that is what parking meters used to do, charge parked
vehicles


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"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Over the last few months i have bought new batteries for half of the
> fleet and am now feeling paranoid about looking after them.
>
> I'm also sick of going out to use/move a car and finding that the
> battery is flat.
>
> Rigging up some kind of charging system would be good, and also help
> my batteries during the winter cold.
>
> Has anybody got any suggestions on possible ways to do this?
>
> I've been thinking, and have thought of the following options:
>
> Solar panels fitted in/on cars -
> No running costs, but very low powered.
> Maplins sell a 1.5watt one ( http://tinyurl.com/7hecf ), which by my
> calculations is only about 0.1Amps. Is there much point in this?
> This also wont be working at night, when its more use (so that the
> battery is powered when it is coldest and ready for me to use the car
> in the morning)
>
> Low ampage mains charger
> A low ampage charger such as this one http://tinyurl.com/b3w2h that
> charges at 2.7amps. Presumably it should be clever enough that it
> should only charge when the battery needs it.
> Could be put on a timer to only work at night to save me money.
>
> I have also seen more expensive battery chargers designed to be left
> on all the time. How do they differ from something like the above
> one?.
>
> If i go for this option then my second issue is where i should put
> things?. My cars are parked a good 20m or so of cable length away from
> the house.
> I can either -
> Site the chargers in the house and run long charging cables out to the
> cars. This would be good as i wouldnt have to put any mains leccy
> outside and could keep an eye on the chargers. Would this be okay or
> would i have issues with running low currents and the chargers sensing
> the battery state over the 20m or so that i need?.
> I could also use something like a caravan towing socket to easily plug
> into the cars to save unearthing batteries every time.
>
> second option - build a little box outside next to my drive. run mains
> to that and put the chargers in it. Run short charge cables from there
> to each car. I'm not so keen on this as i cant see what the chargers
> are doing. I do need to put in an outdoor socket anyway though so i
> can use tools outside easily.
>
> third option - put a charger in each car, and plug the car into the
> mains. I can use caravan mains sockets. I'm not sure i want to leave a
> charger unnatended in my car for long periods though. (I had one that
> went pop and started smoking once).
> This method would also be good because i can leave my car pc powered
> up to use it from within the house
>
> Has anybody got any good advice or ideas?

>
>The real problem is that although wiring codes and general wiring practice
>are not hard for a reasonably intelligent person to understand and comply
>with, the cost of becoming licensed or certified to work on it is
>ridiculous.

The other problem is that unless you find someone 'old school', the
electrician who fits your circuit is much more concerned about getting
to the next job / pub / football / mistress than actually doing a
decent job.

I'd wager I'm more intelligent than most electricians and I certainly
have a much greater interest in the quality of the wiring behind the
switch my daughter presses. There's not much special kit required to
do the work and it's all entirely logical for someone with a bit of
nouse (or an engineering degree).

I've had good work done by tradesmen, but mostly it's been absolutely
crud. I don't care what the law is - nobody is going to tell me I
have to pay some feckless teenager to do a job worse than I could.

Reminds me of the situation in Australia, where it is impossible to
buy a 4-way extension with more than 1 metre of cable, and you can't
rewire them. Thus people daisychain them round the house! You can
also have a normal plug socket next to the bath, as long as it's
professionally fitted...


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'03 Volvo V70

In news:[email protected],
Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> blithered:
>> The real problem is that although wiring codes and general wiring
>> practice are not hard for a reasonably intelligent person to
>> understand and comply with, the cost of becoming licensed or
>> certified to work on it is ridiculous.
>
> The other problem is that unless you find someone 'old school', the
> electrician who fits your circuit is much more concerned about getting
> to the next job / pub / football / mistress than actually doing a
> decent job.
>
> I'd wager I'm more intelligent than most electricians and I certainly
> have a much greater interest in the quality of the wiring behind the
> switch my daughter presses. There's not much special kit required to
> do the work and it's all entirely logical for someone with a bit of
> nouse (or an engineering degree).

I have an Engineering degree, a relevent one at that, but I'm not qualified to do
it!

> I've had good work done by tradesmen, but mostly it's been absolutely
> crud. I don't care what the law is - nobody is going to tell me I
> have to pay some feckless teenager to do a job worse than I could.

The princile idea behind it is to avoid the PFY from doing it!

>
> Reminds me of the situation in Australia, where it is impossible to
> buy a 4-way extension with more than 1 metre of cable, and you can't
> rewire them. Thus people daisychain them round the house! You can
> also have a normal plug socket next to the bath, as long as it's
> professionally fitted...



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Tim Hobbs wrote:

(snip)

> Reminds me of the situation in Australia, where it is impossible to
> buy a 4-way extension with more than 1 metre of cable, and you can't
> rewire them.

Not correct. I bought a five metre one recently and saw ten and fifteen
metre ones in the same display.

> Thus people daisychain them round the house!

Won't argue about that!

> You can
> also have a normal plug socket next to the bath, as long as it's
> professionally fitted...
>
>
No. Not allowed under current wiring rules - but I won't argue that there
are a few about.
JD

"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message >> </shamless plug>
>>
>> Would that count as a pun?
>
> A shocking pun.

Given the topic about batteries, it's also a current pun

- Tom.

In article <8f072c04d%[email protected]>, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> writes

>I thnk you have hit the nail on the head - the real problem is that
>people *cannot afford* to get someone in, so they will leave dodgy
>wiring alone rather than fix it themselves (which is safer, I wonder?)
>or just plug more and more leads into sockets, which we have been told
>for years (guess who by? Could it the very same Government?) is
>pretty dangerous. In other words, far from inceasing saftey this
>lastest stupidity will will reduce it. Nice one (again) Tony!

<Homer moment>

D'oh! It's our sweet reasonable friends in the EU. Remember, the ones
who think a pictogram of a running man is a sensible symbol for a fire
exit (incidentally, I think even the Japanese have the word 'exit'' on
their signs), and that all fire extinguishers should be painted red
irrespective of contents.

The sooner we get the EU out of the UK the better (and start a sensible
cull of bureaucrats).


Regards,

Simonm.

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