Can "they" impound my Landy?

I've just read the "Don't let it happen to you" leaflet at http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/repository/Impounding - Dont Let It Happen To You.pdf

It says:

subsequently successful.

Does this mean that if I carry any goods in my Disco "they" can impound it? Anyone know?

PASTMASTER said:

I've just read the "Don't let it happen to you" leaflet at http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/repository/Impounding - Dont Let It Happen To You.pdf

It says:

You need an operator’s licence to carry goods (or burden)
connected with any trade or business, if you use a motor
vehicle on a road with:
• a gross plated weight of more than 3.5 tonnes; or
• if it has no gross plated weight, but an unladen weight
of more than 1525 kg
An operators licence is necessary even if you use the vehicle
for only a short period of time, even just one day.
If you decide to use a vehicle without an operator’s licence
when you should have one, you risk having it impounded
under the new regulations.
The impounded vehicle will be either sold or scrapped after
21 days unless an application has been made to the local
Traffic Commissioner for its release and the application is​

subsequently successful.

Does this mean that if I carry any goods in my Disco "they" can impound it? Anyone know?

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No cos your disco has a plated weight. of about 3.5 tonnes. unladn weight is about 2tonnes give or take 100kg or so.. And it int a goods vehicle

redhand said:

No cos your disco has a plated weight. of about 3.5 tonnes. unladn weight is about 2tonnes give or take 100kg or so.. And it int a goods vehicle

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Wot pikey says is right.

redhand said:

No cos your disco has a plated weight. of about 3.5 tonnes. unladn weight is about 2tonnes give or take 100kg or so.. And it int a goods vehicle

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Ah relief! I didn't know I had a plated weight. Just that the unladen weight is well over a ton and a half!

Thanks Red.

PASTMASTER said:

I've just read the "Don't let it happen to you" leaflet at http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/repository/Impounding - Dont Let It Happen To You.pdf

It says:

You need an operator’s licence to carry goods (or burden)
connected with any trade or business, if you use a motor
vehicle on a road with:
• a gross plated weight of more than 3.5 tonnes; or
• if it has no gross plated weight, but an unladen weight
of more than 1525 kg
An operators licence is necessary even if you use the vehicle
for only a short period of time, even just one day.
If you decide to use a vehicle without an operator’s licence
when you should have one, you risk having it impounded
under the new regulations.
The impounded vehicle will be either sold or scrapped after
21 days unless an application has been made to the local
Traffic Commissioner for its release and the application is​

subsequently successful.

Does this mean that if I carry any goods in my Disco "they" can impound it? Anyone know?

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If you dont declare it for business use with your insurance and then you carry goods for hire or reward it may be illegal.
I have a waste operators certificate and i am covered.
I have to keep a photocopy of it in my Disco at all times,in case the Inland (Barstewards) letsbe avenue come to call.

VEGGIELANDEE said:

If you dont declare it for business use with your insurance and then you carry goods for hire or reward it may be illegal.
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Doesn't need to be hire or reward - if you carry a briefcase full of papers from work and don't have business insurance they can wriggle out of paying!

That said my last employer had extra insurance to cover this and other eventualities. Not that I ever trusted them - got my own!

Here ya go list of exempt vehicles

APPENDIX 2
Vehicles which do not need to be on an
operator’s licence or the use of which do not
require an operators licence
The following list reflects the substance of the main exemptions from operator licensing
and is a summary only. Details of most of them can be found in Schedule 3 to the Goods
Vehicles (Licensing of Operators) Regulations 1995.
• vehicles first used before 1977 which have an unladen weight not exceeding 1525kg
and for which the maximum gross plated weight is between 3500kg and 3556.21kg
(3.5 tons)
• motor vehicles & their trailers using public roads for less than 9.654km (6 miles) a
week, whilst moving between private premises
• vehicles being used under a trade licence
• vehicles constructed, or adapted, primarily for carrying passengers & their effects while
being used for that purpose, and any trailer drawn
• vehicles used by, or under the control of Her Majesty’s United Kingdom forces and
visiting forces vehicles
• vehicles being used by local authorities for Civil Defence purposes, or to carry out their
functions in respect of certain enactments
• vehicles being used for police, fire or ambulance purposes
• fire-fighting & rescue vehicles used in mines
• RNLI & Coastguard vehicles when used for transporting lifeboats, appliances or crew
• vehicles being held ready for use in emergencies by water, electricity, gas & telephone
undertakings
• tractors, including agricultural tractors, used in certain circumstances
• vehicles being used to carry goods within aerodromes
• vehicles being used for funerals
• uncompleted vehicles on test or trial
• vehicles being used for or in connection with (or on their way to) snow clearing or
distribution of salt, grit etc
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• vehicles on their way to a Department for Transport examination being presented laden
at the request of an examiner
• electric and steam propelled vehicles
• recovery vehicles. Paragraph 3 of the Goods Vehicles [Licensing of Operators]
Regulations 1995 states that a recovery vehicle has the same meaning as in Part V of
Schedule 1 to the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 (i.e. a vehicle which is
constructed or permanently adapted for any one or more of the purposes of lifting,
towing and transporting a disabled vehicle).
• vehicles with fitted equipment eg machines, appliances, where the only other goods (or
burden) carried are required for use in connection with the fitted equipment
• tower wagons & trailers which are carrying goods related to the work of the tower
wagons
• dual purpose vehicles (eg Land Rovers) & their trailers
• trailers whose primary purpose is not to carry goods but do so incidentally in
connection with construction, maintenance or repair of roads
• road rollers & trailers
• showmen’s goods vehicles & trailers
• crown vehicles
• vehicles being used for international haulage by operators established in other EU
Member States
• vehicles being used for international haulage by operators established in Northern
Ireland
• vehicles being used under the provisions of the Goods Vehicles (Operators Licences)
(Temporary Use in Great Britain) Regulations 1980. These Regulations include
provision for the use in Great Britain of Northern Ireland Vehicles, which have an
operating centre in Northern Ireland, provided that certain conditions are met.
Own account and hire and reward operations are covered.
Note: A review of exemptions is currently being carried out. Please consult the Traffic

& a link to the Full booklet. http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A1f4cf...0Goods%20Operators%20-%202007%20(GV%2074).pdf

redhand said:

Here ya go list of exempt vehicles

APPENDIX 2
Vehicles which do not need to be on an
operator’s licence or the use of which do not
require an operators licence
The following list reflects the substance of the main exemptions from operator licensing
and is a summary only. Details of most of them can be found in Schedule 3 to the Goods
Vehicles (Licensing of Operators) Regulations 1995.
• vehicles first used before 1977 which have an unladen weight not exceeding 1525kg
and for which the maximum gross plated weight is between 3500kg and 3556.21kg
(3.5 tons)
• motor vehicles & their trailers using public roads for less than 9.654km (6 miles) a
week, whilst moving between private premises
• vehicles being used under a trade licence
• vehicles constructed, or adapted, primarily for carrying passengers & their effects while
being used for that purpose, and any trailer drawn
• vehicles used by, or under the control of Her Majesty’s United Kingdom forces and
visiting forces vehicles
• vehicles being used by local authorities for Civil Defence purposes, or to carry out their
functions in respect of certain enactments
• vehicles being used for police, fire or ambulance purposes
• fire-fighting & rescue vehicles used in mines
• RNLI & Coastguard vehicles when used for transporting lifeboats, appliances or crew
• vehicles being held ready for use in emergencies by water, electricity, gas & telephone
undertakings
• tractors, including agricultural tractors, used in certain circumstances
• vehicles being used to carry goods within aerodromes
• vehicles being used for funerals
• uncompleted vehicles on test or trial
• vehicles being used for or in connection with (or on their way to) snow clearing or
distribution of salt, grit etc
31
• vehicles on their way to a Department for Transport examination being presented laden
at the request of an examiner
• electric and steam propelled vehicles
• recovery vehicles. Paragraph 3 of the Goods Vehicles [Licensing of Operators]
Regulations 1995 states that a recovery vehicle has the same meaning as in Part V of
Schedule 1 to the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 (i.e. a vehicle which is
constructed or permanently adapted for any one or more of the purposes of lifting,
towing and transporting a disabled vehicle).
• vehicles with fitted equipment eg machines, appliances, where the only other goods (or
burden) carried are required for use in connection with the fitted equipment
• tower wagons & trailers which are carrying goods related to the work of the tower
wagons
• dual purpose vehicles (eg Land Rovers) & their trailers
• trailers whose primary purpose is not to carry goods but do so incidentally in
connection with construction, maintenance or repair of roads
• road rollers & trailers
• showmen’s goods vehicles & trailers
• crown vehicles
• vehicles being used for international haulage by operators established in other EU
Member States
• vehicles being used for international haulage by operators established in Northern
Ireland
• vehicles being used under the provisions of the Goods Vehicles (Operators Licences)
(Temporary Use in Great Britain) Regulations 1980. These Regulations include
provision for the use in Great Britain of Northern Ireland Vehicles, which have an
operating centre in Northern Ireland, provided that certain conditions are met.
Own account and hire and reward operations are covered.
Note: A review of exemptions is currently being carried out. Please consult the Traffic

& a link to the Full booklet. http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A1f4cf...0Goods%20Operators%20-%202007%20(GV%2074).pdf

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Kinell copy and paste phantom's at it again

redhand said:

list of exempt vehicles

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Good of them to list Landrovers specifically!

Less good of them not even to bother to put a link to this on their scary leaflet though.

If I'm ever stopped for any of these things I'm gonna flash my army ID at them and tell them it's "official". Actually did that once at a DoT checkpoint - "Excuse me, but we've got 25 assault rifles in the back of the bus - er would it be possible to do us first cause I'm a bit concerned about security". They still checked us, but it got us to the front of the queue.

PASTMASTER said:

Good of them to list Landrovers specifically!

Less good of them not even to bother to put a link to this on their scary leaflet though.

If I'm ever stopped for any of these things I'm gonna flash my army ID at them and tell them it's "official". Actually did that once at a DoT checkpoint - "Excuse me, but we've got 25 assault rifles in the back of the bus - er would it be possible to do us first cause I'm a bit concerned about security". They still checked us, but it got us to the front of the queue.

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Cheatin bastiddd

The moral of the stawree izzzzz

Insure the count rite fust.

VEGGIELANDEE said:

Cheatin bastiddd

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Too f....n' right! Were you in the queue then?

PASTMASTER said:

Too f....n' right! Were you in the queue then?

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Yeah yer fekkinn redneck bastidd









Army lads iz the best onest

PASTMASTER said:

Good of them to list Landrovers specifically!

Less good of them not even to bother to put a link to this on their scary leaflet though.

If I'm ever stopped for any of these things I'm gonna flash my army ID at them and tell them it's "official". Actually did that once at a DoT checkpoint - "Excuse me, but we've got 25 assault rifles in the back of the bus - er would it be possible to do us first cause I'm a bit concerned about security". They still checked us, but it got us to the front of the queue.

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SO19, didn't fancy coming out to play then...

VEGGIELANDEE said:

Yeah yer fekkinn redneck bastidd

Army lads iz the best onest

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That's Lieutenant fekkinn redneck bastidd if you don't mind (the other bigger bastidds won't promote me. Or even give me any medals. Good job I'm a secret republican me).