Can anyone tell me the age of this engine?
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the_wolf
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Isn't a 12L number a disco 200tdi? Just wondering as you've put this in the 2.5td 19J sectiob
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maybe he thinks it should be 12J?
The USA has slightly different Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) from the world. Digits 1,2,3 are set by the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) for each automotive company
Digits
1 Country: S = UK
2 Manufacturer: A = British Leyland/Rover
3 Vehicle Make: L = Land Rover
4 Line (model)
D = 90 & 110
H = Range Rover Classic
J = Discovery
N = Freelander
P = Range Rover (mk2)
T = Discovery, Series II
5 Series (Emissions and wheelbase)
C = LWB (108") Range Rover Classic--must be a 49 State Emmissions
E = 50 State Emisssions: NAS Range Rover, mkII (100")
H = NAS 110"
N = 50 State Emissions: NAS Discovery (100")
V = 49 State Emissions: NAS 90" or NAS Range Rover, mkII (100")
50 State Emission for NAS Range Rover Classic (100" & 108") X = 50 State Emissions (California): NAS 90"
Y = 49 State Emissions: NAS Discovery (100") & Freelander
6 Body Type
1 = closed (hard top), 5 door
2 = open (soft top), 2 door. NAS D90s & Freelander
3 = closed (hardtop), 3 door. NAS D90 Station Wagon
7 Engine Type
1 = 3.5 L V8
2 = 3.9 L V8 and 4.0 L V8 (OBD II) or Freelander V6
3 = 4.2 L V8 (LWB Range Rover Classic
4 = 4.6 L V8
8 Steering/transmission and Gross Vehicle Weight class)
2 = Freelander automatic
3 = Canadian D110 and 6000 lb GVW
4 = LHD 4 speed automatic and 6000 lb GVW
8 = LHD 5 speed manual and 6000 lb GVW
9 Checksum for the other 16 digits
May be any digit from 0 to 9 or X.
A numberic value is assigned to each letter in the VIN
A,J
B,K,S
C,L,T
D,M,U
E,N,V
F,W
G,P,X
H,Y
R,Z
Each position of the VIN is given a weight factor
1=8, 2=7, ... , 7=2, 8=10, 10=9, ... , 17=2
Multiply each digit by it's weight factor and sum for positions 1 to 8 and 10 to 17.
Divided by 11 and find the remainder. The remainder is the 9th digit (with and X being used if the remainder is 10)
Example: a 1996 Range Rover Classic (SALHE124XSA660000)
VIN: S A L H E 1 2 4 X S A 6 6 0 0 0 0
number: 2 1 3 8 5 1 2 4 * 2 1 6 6 0 0 0 0
Weight: 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2
Multiply: 14 6 15 32 15 2 2 40 18 8 42 36 0 0 0 0
Add: 14 +6+15+32+15 +2 +2+40 +18 +8+42+36+ 0+ 0+ 0+ 0 = 230
Divide: 230/11= 20 remainder 10. So the 9th Digit is an X (as shown)
10 Year of Manufacture
J=1988
K=1989
L=1990
M=1991
N=1992
P=1993
R=1994
S=1995
T=1996
V=1997
X=1998
Y=1999
Z=2000
1=2001
2=2002
11 (assembly location)
A = Solihull
F = CKD
12-17 (serial number)
See Specific vehicle FAQs for sequences
Digits
1 Country: S = UK
2 Manufacturer: A = British Leyland/Rover
3 Vehicle Make: L = Land Rover
4 Line (model)
D = 90 & 110
H = Range Rover Classic
J = Discovery
N = Freelander
P = Range Rover (mk2)
T = Discovery, Series II
5 Series (Emissions and wheelbase)
C = LWB (108") Range Rover Classic--must be a 49 State Emmissions
E = 50 State Emisssions: NAS Range Rover, mkII (100")
H = NAS 110"
N = 50 State Emissions: NAS Discovery (100")
V = 49 State Emissions: NAS 90" or NAS Range Rover, mkII (100")
50 State Emission for NAS Range Rover Classic (100" & 108") X = 50 State Emissions (California): NAS 90"
Y = 49 State Emissions: NAS Discovery (100") & Freelander
6 Body Type
1 = closed (hard top), 5 door
2 = open (soft top), 2 door. NAS D90s & Freelander
3 = closed (hardtop), 3 door. NAS D90 Station Wagon
7 Engine Type
1 = 3.5 L V8
2 = 3.9 L V8 and 4.0 L V8 (OBD II) or Freelander V6
3 = 4.2 L V8 (LWB Range Rover Classic
4 = 4.6 L V8
8 Steering/transmission and Gross Vehicle Weight class)
2 = Freelander automatic
3 = Canadian D110 and 6000 lb GVW
4 = LHD 4 speed automatic and 6000 lb GVW
8 = LHD 5 speed manual and 6000 lb GVW
9 Checksum for the other 16 digits
May be any digit from 0 to 9 or X.
A numberic value is assigned to each letter in the VIN
A,J
B,K,S
C,L,T
D,M,U
E,N,V
F,W
G,P,X
H,Y
R,Z
Each position of the VIN is given a weight factor
1=8, 2=7, ... , 7=2, 8=10, 10=9, ... , 17=2
Multiply each digit by it's weight factor and sum for positions 1 to 8 and 10 to 17.
Divided by 11 and find the remainder. The remainder is the 9th digit (with and X being used if the remainder is 10)
Example: a 1996 Range Rover Classic (SALHE124XSA660000)
VIN: S A L H E 1 2 4 X S A 6 6 0 0 0 0
number: 2 1 3 8 5 1 2 4 * 2 1 6 6 0 0 0 0
Weight: 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2
Multiply: 14 6 15 32 15 2 2 40 18 8 42 36 0 0 0 0
Add: 14 +6+15+32+15 +2 +2+40 +18 +8+42+36+ 0+ 0+ 0+ 0 = 230
Divide: 230/11= 20 remainder 10. So the 9th Digit is an X (as shown)
10 Year of Manufacture
J=1988
K=1989
L=1990
M=1991
N=1992
P=1993
R=1994
S=1995
T=1996
V=1997
X=1998
Y=1999
Z=2000
1=2001
2=2002
11 (assembly location)
A = Solihull
F = CKD
12-17 (serial number)
See Specific vehicle FAQs for sequences
Thor1950
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Not on this case trying to import into USA would have UK ########### as not intended as a NA import. So needs to be 25 yrs or older
looks like it is a 1990............. to new needs to be a 1987.............. If only done a search
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yet another stunning first post 
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its a 200tdi disco engine.
its the engine number breakdown he wants, not the vin.
its the engine number breakdown he wants, not the vin.
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its a 1986 defender 90
with a 200tdi disco lump in it.
Hey man,
I'm just like you, an American in the UK in love with Defenders. I saw you had a 200TDi sent to the US and stuck in customs. Did you ever get it through customs? How much money did you end up spending door to door? I've got a shipper offering 1200 pounds for Roll on Roll off, and the customs people in the US offering ~$250 for customs help and dock/wharfage fees. Is this about the price you paid?
I'd love to call you and chat for 4-5 minutes and ask you how the process went, how difficult it was, and any advice you have for me to avoid. Do you mind calling me or giving me your number to talk? Thanks for your help, hope you got your Defender into the States without too much extra work.
Sincerely,
Josh
I'm just like you, an American in the UK in love with Defenders. I saw you had a 200TDi sent to the US and stuck in customs. Did you ever get it through customs? How much money did you end up spending door to door? I've got a shipper offering 1200 pounds for Roll on Roll off, and the customs people in the US offering ~$250 for customs help and dock/wharfage fees. Is this about the price you paid?
I'd love to call you and chat for 4-5 minutes and ask you how the process went, how difficult it was, and any advice you have for me to avoid. Do you mind calling me or giving me your number to talk? Thanks for your help, hope you got your Defender into the States without too much extra work.
Sincerely,
Josh
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Talk to RobinT about shipping he knows someone in the states who runs a shipping business. But be aware it won't even leave this country if all the docs/vin numbers/ chassis numbers etc aren't 100% spot on.
