bumper puller

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544.31 kilograms hmmmmmmmm I wouldn't try it on a stuck car
 
284 dollars plus shipping and import duty I guess
If you want hand winch tirfor are used by forestry guys. Forged jate rings as recovery points and a lifting strop between them to spread the load.

Don't be tempted to do it cheap as something failing under load is lethal.
 
The bumper itself is not actually very strong and an attachement in the wrong place will quickly deform it. Attachements made to the bumper should be strengthened and fitted in-line with the chassis leg but it is better to use a point directly mounted to the chassis. You can use Jate rings but I dislike them as they are below the bumper and prone to being down in the gloop when you need to get to them, better is the LR D-ring which uses the bumper to chassis mount and is above the bumper so easier to get to. As with the Jate rings, use in pairs with a bridle between them.

For occasional use perhaps you could consider a removable hitch like this which you can fit & remove as you like along with a demountable hand winch?

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Litch said:
The bumper itself is not actually very strong and an attachement in the wrong place will quickly deform it. Attachements made to the bumper should be strengthened and fitted in-line with the chassis leg but it is better to use a point directly mounted to the chassis. You can use Jate rings but I dislike them as they are below the bumper and prone to being down in the gloop when you need to get to them, better is the LR D-ring which uses the bumper to chassis mount and is above the bumper so easier to get to. As with the Jate rings, use in pairs with a bridle between them.

For occasional use perhaps you could consider a removable hitch like this which you can fit & remove as you like along with a demountable hand winch?

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Rubbish advice about attaching anything to the bumper.
That thing above'd pull the bumper off before you knew it. It'd be ok to move a caravan on flat ground but would be useless and dangerous to use in any recovery situation, especially an off-road- sunk to the axle one. Jate rings are the way to go and fix a bridle to them and tie it with string up the bonnet before you get into the gloop and this would then be easily reachable.
 
I would argue that you can pull from the bumper, after all that's where a winch is attached. The only thing is a winch bumper usually has more fixing points than a standard bumper and is stronger. Standard bumpers are very easy to bend. If you want to pull with the bumper it would be best to get a winch bumper.
 
GRATCH said:
Rubbish advice about attaching anything to the bumper.
That thing above'd pull the bumper off before you knew it. It'd be ok to move a caravan on flat ground but would be useless and dangerous to use in any recovery situation, especially an off-road- sunk to the axle one. Jate rings are the way to go and fix a bridle to them and tie it with string up the bonnet before you get into the gloop and this would then be easily reachable.
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The whole point is that he wants it for recovering boats etc and never made any mention of using it 'off road sunk to the axle'! It's completely wrong for what you describe and could never be recomended but that wasn't the question anyway. He wanted to know if he could attach a hand-winch to the bumper but many (small) demountable winches used for the purposes he describes can be fixed to a tow-ball.
The problem with Jate-rings is as I described earlier, being lower than the bumper anything attached to them more prone to damage as it is below the chassis and has to come up across the front of the bumper. Leaving a bridle perminantly attached is a certain way of condition & life span which is why I prefer D-rings.
 
khaos said:
I would argue that you can pull from the bumper, after all that's where a winch is attached. The only thing is a winch bumper usually has more fixing points than a standard bumper and is stronger. Standard bumpers are very easy to bend. If you want to pull with the bumper it would be best to get a winch bumper.
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Bit of a contridiction there, you say you can pull from the bumper and then go on to say that winch bumpers are stronger and have more fixing points. This chap wanted to know if the standard bumper was stong enough which as you say will bend very easily.
 
I push my wifes horse box around with a front mounted ball hitch. Its dead in line with the off side chassis rail and has a 5/16 thick spreader plate mounted behind. No signs of bending so far. Makes getting it in to tight spaces really easy.
 
Litch said:
Bit of a contridiction there, you say you can pull from the bumper and then go on to say that winch bumpers are stronger and have more fixing points. This chap wanted to know if the standard bumper was stong enough which as you say will bend very easily.
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They do bend very easily, trust me, I've done it.

It would be ok to put it in line with the chassis though because then they don't pull on the bumper, they pull on the chassis. The winch bumper comment was just proving the point that you can pull from a bumper.
 
I know a few good welders, could i get a bracket made up that is fixed to the same bolts that attach the bumper to the chassis?
 
Maybe I'm missing something here but if you only want to pull small loads from the front why do you need a hand winch,the cable wont be that long so can't you just ensure the hitch is in a strong position as mentioned and reverse?
 
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