Brakes - haven't got any

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radnorjohn

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Hi Folks - have a 1998 Freelander 1.8 my problem is with my brakes.

2 ways that i get any brakes.

1st is by having to depress the brake pedal nearly all the way down before they slowly start biting.

The 2nd is by if i quickly double press the brake pedal, then they work pretty much like they should.


assuming all freelanders are the same with disc at front and drum on the rear. but can anyone point me in the right direction here.
 
if you are pressing down then pressing down again quickly and then get a brake it sounds like air in the system a vacume leek the brake peddle would be hard and you would feel as though it would not stop big difference
 
It does sound like air in the system but check you don't have a brake fluid leak especially from one of the rear wheel cylinders.

Have you checked your brake servo - with engine off, pump the brake pedal a few times till it goes hard and hold the brake pedal down with your foot, start the engine and the pedal should sink a bit.
 
The symptoms sound like a seal failure on the duel circuit in the master cylinder.
or a leak in one of the circuits, is there fluid in both half's of the reservoir.
 
radnorjohn said:
Hi Folks - have a 1998 Freelander 1.8 my problem is with my brakes.

2 ways that i get any brakes.

1st is by having to depress the brake pedal nearly all the way down before they slowly start biting.

The 2nd is by if i quickly double press the brake pedal, then they work pretty much like they should.


assuming all freelanders are the same with disc at front and drum on the rear. but can anyone point me in the right direction here.
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check the wheel bearings as wear in them can cause discs to wobble which in turn pushes pads away meaning you need to pump brakes to apply them
 
Mantamad said:
It does sound like air in the system but check you don't have a brake fluid leak especially from one of the rear wheel cylinders.

Have you checked your brake servo - with engine off, pump the brake pedal a few times till it goes hard and hold the brake pedal down with your foot, start the engine and the pedal should sink a bit.
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Cheers Bud - tried that and yeah the brake pedal did sink slightly. I have decided that i'm not going to do any good messing about with no knowledge so got it booked into local garage on Monday
 
Problem solved guys - bite the bullet and took the car to my local garage. Turned out it was the brake adjustment. It was way out.

so had them adjusted and cleaned, new discs and pads. £172 all in.

Job done. Thanks to all that have offered help and advice, i'm sure i'll be calling on you again!!!
 
If brakes pump up it's usually adjustment thats at fault, if you have air in the system no amount of pumping up will give you a hard pedal. If you have a good pedal with the handbrake on then try manually adjusting the back shoes. Pads are self adjusting so wouldn't have thought new pads and discs were the answer unless the caliper pistons had seized.
 
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nickcc said:
If brakes pump up it's usually adjustment thats at fault, if you have air in the system no amount of pumping up will give you a hard pedal. If you have a good pedal with the handbrake on then try manually adjusting the back shoes. Pads are self adjusting so wouldn't have thought new pads and discs were the answer unless the caliper pistons had seized.
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no it was front discs and pads changed - should have explained that a wee bit better
 
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