Brakes dont work - HELP!!!!!

I have recently replaced the brake pads and pipes on my 74' series 3, and the master cylinder. I have bled the system but the brakes don't work. The peddle is really "spongie" and there is no stopping power. There are no leaks and the fruid was all changed when i replaced the pads. It has also had new cylinders as well. I dont have a clue what to do to make it stop.

try lifting the rear up as high as possible and leave it like that over night then bleed it. then do the same with the front.

To find out what set of cylinders are giving you the hassel, clamp of the flex lines one at a time and when the peddle gets better then you know when you found the culprit. Also id it a 109 with the dual front cylinders...if it is then I recommend redoing the plumbing on thefront so that the line coming from the T-connector goes into the bottom wheel cylinder and then put the bleed screw on the to cylinder. Also check to makesure that youhave te leading brake shoe in the right place.And that the brake adjusters are working and at the right settings. Good luck.

I had the same problem with my 1975 it was all down to the shoes was just a little off shape. I know it sounds silly but only one part of the shoes was touching the drum so there was alot of play in the pedal. Another thing to do is get someone to bleed them with you. They do the pedal whilst you scramble about under.....That is if its down to the bleeding. This was another cure on a landy.. They all seem to have there own caracter

i've heard of drums being out of shape but never a shoe being out of shape. they are, after all mass produced so you'd think there would be a lot of shoes out of shape.
whereas the drums get out of shape with a lot of use.
if you can pressure bled them or use the 'jack up 'one end of it method you can, pretty much, eliminate air as the cause.

When the shoes were out of shape... curious were they the right size, there are 2 different sizes of drums, if it was only hiting in one spot would wonder if maybe they were 10" shoes on an 11" drum....

No they was right.....11" shoes 11" drums. I upgraded the 88" fronts to 11"...................

i would say that you should adjust brakes again

thehulkowner said:

i would say that you should adjust brakes again

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I want toi know how ya got pads to work in drums.....lol

Buy - borrow - steal THREE brake hose clamps.

Clamp three brake hoses.

Bleed the other wheel cylinder - the unclamped one.

Take one clamp off, and clamp the hose of the wheel you just bled.

Now bleed the one you just took the clamp off.

And so on till they are all done.

Make sure you have all the clamps off and try the pedal.

Remember, a squishy pedal MUST be because something is being squished!

AIR is number-one culprit, perished rubbers, brake pistons moving out, dodgy hose bulging (really ...) and so on. Logic should point the way.