Brake caliper..£20 Vs £70 vs £120

Looks like troll post has been deleted Keith, if you delete yours it will kill the link.

Grit Valve said:

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Back from the dead:clap2::clap2:

Dredging up this old thread, I just fitted Britpart calipers to my spare P38. All looked good, so bled them with help from mate.

Didn't realise until wheels re-fitted, but the front calipers are 5mm bigger in the centre, and foul on the wheel rims.

Have sent email with pictures off to Island-4x4 to see what they are gonna do.

pwood999 said:

Dredging up this old thread, I just fitted Britpart calipers to my spare P38. All looked good, so bled them with help from mate.

Didn't realise until wheels re-fitted, but the front calipers are 5mm bigger in the centre, and foul on the wheel rims.

Have sent email with pictures off to Island-4x4 to see what they are gonna do.

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What size wheels have you got must be 16s

Nope 18" on this car. Don't know if they LR P38, or aftermarket ? Fitted by previous owner or before that maybe? I even moved the caliper aside, and re-fitted the original to double check. Caliper definitely measures 5mm bigger !!

Update . . .searching google images & it looks like they are Mondial 18" either from this P38, or a disco.

Maybe I should try a 16" wheel from the other car !!

It would be even worse with 16s then,
They definitely have a problem with the calipers

Got a reply from Island already saying they will collect callipers. Surprised to get a response on Sunday or maybe they have a batch problem & know about it.

At least it’s the project car & not daily driver, but pain having to bleed again. Almost MOT ready as well.

Good they are sorting it, i wonder if they are labeled up wrong or as you say bad batch.

Same calliper used on Disco & P38. I also checked carriers to see if they are L & R but identical both sides.

The measures in pictures show the real issue. Thicker castings but no extra offset in the mountings.

New pictures of Lucas & Britpart calipers. Studding was as straight as I could get it. Waiting for Island to respond !!

FYI, they have checked other Britpart & Eurospares calipers in their warehouse, and apparently all of them are 70mm thick at the centre. Now waiting for them to check the position of the lugs.

pwood999 said:

New pictures of Lucas & Britpart calipers. Studding was as straight as I could get it. Waiting for Island to respond !!

FYI, they have checked other Britpart & Eurospares calipers in their warehouse, and apparently all of them are 70mm thick at the centre. Now waiting for them to check the position of the lugs.

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What's the difference if these two edges are flush?

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Britpart one is 5mm thicker when those two edges line up. Didn't bother lining up with your extra useless part.

pwood999 said:

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Britpart one is 5mm thicker when those two edges line up. Didn't bother lining up with your extra useless part.

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Hee hee,
It doesn't make sense why there would be a difference?? Could they be different on the later models with 18" wheels?

Mark Piercy said:

Hee hee,
It doesn't make sense why there would be a difference?? Could they be different on the later models with 18" wheels?

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No, I've seen similar issues with 16" rims although I cannot remember now if they were 7J rims rather than 8J - some early P38s had 7J rims, presumably using up stock from the Classic.

Mine are stamped ANR6316 on the inside casting. Definitely P38 wheels. https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/anr6316mnh-wheel-alloy-road.html

Grrrrrr said:

No, I've seen similar issues with 16" rims although I cannot remember now if they were 7J rims rather than 8J - some early P38s had 7J rims, presumably using up stock from the Classic.

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Early Dhse models where fitted with 255/65/16's before the 18" arrived and the other models had 235's.

Update. Today I cleaned up the old Lucas calipers. Lubricated them with Rubber Grease & fitted new seals. Installed back on the car & have >>7mm clearance to the wheels. Pulled new fluid through using vacuum pump & no leaks so far. They need bleeding properly when I have an assistant available.

FYI, before this I tried my 16" spare from the other car with the ****part caliper installed. There's << 2mm clearance between the wheel & caliper, so would be concerned using these even with 16" wheels. How much do calipers expand when hot from heavy use ?

Along with mud and stones when mooching in the crap