Blooming speed camera

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john oakes

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Hi folks
Just joined the been flashed group. Do you normally get two
flashes and how much is the fine. Dam Dam Dam.!!!!

regards bottom lip wobble
 
Depends on how fast you were going!

<30 over speed limit is 3 points and 60 quid.
>30 over speed limit is more points and more cash

If youve joined the 'Tonne plus club' then youre more than likely off to see
some guy in a wig....

I think thats how it works..

Mark
9090



"john oakes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi folks
> Just joined the been flashed group. Do you normally get two
> flashes and how much is the fine. Dam Dam Dam.!!!!
>
> regards bottom lip wobble


 
lol yes. i presumed it was in a 30/40 area. but if you were on a motorway doing a ton up then quite possibly (depending on which police force it is) you may need to dig out ur shiney suit from the laundry basket and give it a press.
 
On 31 Jan 2006 03:35:08 GMT, john oakes <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi folks
> Just joined the been flashed group. Do you normally get two
>flashes and how much is the fine. Dam Dam Dam.!!!!

2 flashes is normal.
They are not always loaded and still flash - so you may still be ok. I
think i've been flashed 5 or 6 times now and not recieved any nasty
letters.
You can now spend the next few weeks worrying about it and not
enjoying checking the post in the morning.

>regards bottom lip wobble

 
> They are not always loaded and still flash - so you may still be ok. I
> think i've been flashed 5 or 6 times now and not recieved any nasty
> letters.
> You can now spend the next few weeks worrying about it and not
> enjoying checking the post in the morning.

I've been flashed on occasion too and never had a ticket. They have
to issue it within 14 days of the offence, so if you don't get anything
by then, you won't.

Matt.
 
On 31 Jan 2006 03:35:08 GMT, john oakes wrote:

> Just joined the been flashed group. Do you normally get two
> flashes and how much is the fine. Dam Dam Dam.!!!!

Two timed flashes to get two images of the car against the marked road so
if you dispute the radar reading they can show you did Xm in Ys so must
have going at Z speed.

As regards getting a done, variable. I've been flashed a couple of times
and not been done. But they where motorway cameras and flashed almost
everybody, would have to have been a very big roll of film(*)... You'll
just have to sit and wait now, not sure how long it is before you can say
your in the clear, even if they do send you a notice. If it arrives too
long after the event it's not enforceable. There a number of "know your
rights" web sites relating to speed cameras.

(*)Not all cameras use film these days, some are digital, some are online
and digital.

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
On or around 31 Jan 2006 03:35:08 GMT, john oakes <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Hi folks
> Just joined the been flashed group. Do you normally get two
>flashes and how much is the fine. Dam Dam Dam.!!!!
>
>regards bottom lip wobble

wait and see. Might be no film in the thing. They always flash twice, even
if not "active".
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Too Busy: Your mind is like a motorway. Sometimes it can be jammed by
too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
Bank Holiday weekend.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
There are a couple of things that you can do now to avoid getting a ticket,
but be quick:-

1/ Return to camera, attach chain around camera and attach other end to any
Land Rover product and speed off.
2/ Return to camera, throw a couple of old tyres around camera head, add a
sprinkle of petrol to taste, ignite and cook on a high temerature for 45
minutes.


"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around 31 Jan 2006 03:35:08 GMT, john oakes <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Hi folks
>> Just joined the been flashed group. Do you normally get two
>>flashes and how much is the fine. Dam Dam Dam.!!!!
>>
>>regards bottom lip wobble
>
> wait and see. Might be no film in the thing. They always flash twice,
> even
> if not "active".
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> Too Busy: Your mind is like a motorway. Sometimes it can be jammed by
> too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
> Bank Holiday weekend.
> from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.


 
On 2006-01-31, Bill Payer <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2/ Return to camera, throw a couple of old tyres around camera head, add a
> sprinkle of petrol to taste, ignite and cook on a high temerature for 45
> minutes.

There's a camera on the A303 that I used to pass regularly, about 3
times a year it would get this treatment. It's pointing up a very
steep hill and catches people as they dash to overtake extremely slow
lorries on a patch of short dual carriageway designed for the
purpose.

It seems a bit of a mean place to put the camera, however the dual
carriageway ends extremely suddenly just over the top of the hill so I
suspect it's there to try to teach people that next time they come by,
they should go slower rather than try to beat the lorry. It doesn't
help those who're only passing through of course, perhaps better
signage or road layout would be better..

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
On 2006-01-31, Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> wrote:

> They have to issue it within 14 days of the offence, so if you don't
> get anything by then, you won't.

Oh you will, I received one three *months* after the event from
Suffolk Police, the dates on the NIP were correct and showed the date
of the offence as being 3 months in the past. I binned it and heard
nothing more apart from a threatening letter about taking me to court,
killing my cat, burning the house down etc but that went in the bin
too.

So there's a good chance they'll still try to get the loot out of you
even if two weeks pass, counting on you not knowing the rules, 'cos
they certainly don't hint at them anywhere.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:08:37 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 2006-01-31, Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They have to issue it within 14 days of the offence, so if you don't
>> get anything by then, you won't.
>
>Oh you will, I received one three *months* after the event from
>Suffolk Police, the dates on the NIP were correct and showed the date
>of the offence as being 3 months in the past. I binned it and heard
>nothing more apart from a threatening letter about taking me to court,
>killing my cat, burning the house down etc but that went in the bin
>too.
>
>So there's a good chance they'll still try to get the loot out of you
>even if two weeks pass, counting on you not knowing the rules, 'cos
>they certainly don't hint at them anywhere.

I had one nine months late. So late, in fact, that it was for an
offence before I owned the car. They knew this (it was pointed out on
the NIP) but still sent me a NIP. And then another...

Never bothered getting back to them, half hoping for a day in court.
It didn't go anywhere.

--
Tim Hobbs
 
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:08:37 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 2006-01-31, Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They have to issue it within 14 days of the offence, so if you don't
>> get anything by then, you won't.
>
>Oh you will, I received one three *months* after the event from
>Suffolk Police, the dates on the NIP were correct and showed the date
>of the offence as being 3 months in the past. I binned it and heard
>nothing more apart from a threatening letter about taking me to court,
>killing my cat, burning the house down etc but that went in the bin
>too.
>
>So there's a good chance they'll still try to get the loot out of you
>even if two weeks pass, counting on you not knowing the rules, 'cos
>they certainly don't hint at them anywhere.

The absolute deadline is 6 months. If they havn't issued you a Court
Summons within 6 months from the date of alleged speeding offence it's
dead in the water.

Alex
 
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:49:05 +0000, Matthew Maddock wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

>> They are not always loaded and still flash - so you may still be ok. I
>> think i've been flashed 5 or 6 times now and not recieved any nasty
>> letters.
>> You can now spend the next few weeks worrying about it and not
>> enjoying checking the post in the morning.
>
> I've been flashed on occasion too and never had a ticket. They have
> to issue it within 14 days of the offence, so if you don't get anything
> by then, you won't.
>
> Matt.

Just bear in mind that they have a get out clause on the 14 days if the
person driving the vehicle was not the registered keeper. My Peugeot is on
contract hire and S Wales police took 8 - 12 weeks to get a ticket to me a
ticket in 2004. I challenged it on the 14 day grounds and was firmly put in
my place. They only have to deliver the NIP to the registered keeper in 14
days, not actually identify the driver and get the NIP to them.

 

> Just bear in mind that they have a get out clause on the 14 days if the
> person driving the vehicle was not the registered keeper. My Peugeot is on
> contract hire and S Wales police took 8 - 12 weeks to get a ticket to me a
> ticket in 2004. I challenged it on the 14 day grounds and was firmly put in
> my place. They only have to deliver the NIP to the registered keeper in 14
> days, not actually identify the driver and get the NIP to them.

Didn't realise that, but it makes sense I guess.

I got one for someone who I sold one of my cars to as the ownership
hadn't been transferred. I got it within a few days of the offence.
I have to say that the Police were actually very good when I called
them to explain that the vehicle wasn't mine and I didn't have any
details for the new owner. I was quite surprised, given the wording
of the NIP was very threatening if I could not supply the details
of the driver at the time of the offence, suggesting that I
would be prosecuted if I did not provide this info. There didn't
seem any leeway for the fact that I genuinely did not know it!
Since then I always get any new owner of a car I sell to sign
something detailing their name / address and the date (& time) that
they took ownership of the car. Pedantic I know, but I'd prefer
to be safe than sorry - just in case!

Matt.
 

Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-01-31, Bill Payer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > 2/ Return to camera, throw a couple of old tyres around camera head, add a
> > sprinkle of petrol to taste, ignite and cook on a high temerature for 45
> > minutes.
>
> There's a camera on the A303 that I used to pass regularly, about 3
> times a year it would get this treatment. It's pointing up a very
> steep hill and catches people as they dash to overtake extremely slow
> lorries on a patch of short dual carriageway designed for the
> purpose.

There's also one on the A128 at Kelvedon Hatch, Essex. It was burnt
out at least twice that I know of, the last being 12 months ago. The
authorities have left the burnt-out hulk in place - leastways it
*looks* like the burnt-out hulk :)

- Tom.

 
On 2006-01-31, Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> wrote:

> Didn't realise that, but it makes sense I guess.

The idea behind the 14-day limit was that it was regarded as the time
that you could be expected to remember what had happened and so would
be able to mount a suitable defence. Unfortunately the rule gets
bypassed for administrative convenience, e.g. no requirement to send
via registered post any more, second-class post will do, as long as
the police have the paperwork to "prove" that it was sent.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
It's worth looking around for the rules for the correct use of fixed Gatso
cameras, for instance, did you know that a Gatso camera must be supplied by
mains 240v and NOT a generator providing 240v, motorway road works for
example??
The road that the camera is on must have the correct road signs within a
certain distance of the camera (1km I think). The sign must display the
camera symbol AND the road speed.
The camera must be highly visible with flourescent markings to warn the
driver that they are approaching a dangerous part of the road.


 
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