BHP query

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GbH

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• Oct 28, 2005

• #21

In news:5729f6c04d%[email protected],
beamendsltd <[email protected]> blithered:
> In message <[email protected]>
> "GbH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In news:[email protected],
>> Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> blithered:
>>>>> 750 (3/4) is good for ballpark conversions, as dividing by 3 and
>>>>> multiplying by 4 (or tother way about) is not hard to do as mental
>>>>> arithmetic.
>>>>
>>>> Multiply by 7 and divide by 4 gets you the VAT!
>>>
>>> You need a new accountant...
>>
>> No really OK 10x but what's a decimal point twixt one and ones tax
>> assessor?
>>
>
> Divide the gross figure by 1.175 will get you the VAT content.
>
> Richard

The plan was for to do it in yer head!!!

My 7 times table and 4 & 2 times tables is a tad better than my 1.175 times table.
I can manage to calculate the VAT due without recourse to a calculator or
computer, although I will occasionally use a bit of pencil and paper when the
numbers get long.

Looking at your seuggestion there Richard and I beg to differ, with that you get
the VAT free amount, not the VAT, If I'm doing that sum in my head I subtract 15%
which I can usually figure without recourse to mechanical addidtance. That is not
exact but you'll be hard pushed to find the error.
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Erik-Jan Geniets

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• Oct 28, 2005

• #22

Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> On or around Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >I must add at this point (in defence of perkins) that they make some
> >excellent boat anchors and landfill materials ;-)
> >Badger.
>
> Actually, they make good truck or tractor engines. 's just that for example
> the 4203 or 4236 are not good land rover engines.
>
> I once heard of a rangie with a 6354 in it. Ludicrous.

Would it be wise to start another thread on this ?
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.

 

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Erik-Jan Geniets

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• Oct 28, 2005

• #23

Austin Shackles wrote:

> >Erik-Jan.
> >P.S. a friemd of mine just bought a Milner converted LR 109 with a
> >Perkins 3.9 L. Diesel.
> >What actually is a "Milner Conversion"? Just the engine ?
>
> 's a good way of breaking the transmission. Half-shafts, mostly.
>
> typical comments from the days when this was common: "Got this 4.3l perkins
> in the land rover, and it's great - I can go up <insert name of local hill>
> in 4th towing the trailer"
>
> followed after a bit by "me half-shaft's broke - bloody land rover keeps
> breaking"
>
> not surprising, if you transmit about twice the torque through it that it
> was designed for...

It gives less power than a V8 with the same driveline so why would it
break down with the Perkins and not with a V8?

And back to the original question, is a Milner conversion only the
engine or more?

btw, we are talking a british licensend car here....KEF XXX ???? A red
County 4 door saloon shipped to the Netherlands. Familiar to anyone ????
White (tropic) roof, 109, 11 seats. Built around 1982.

Kind regards,
E.J.

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Oct 28, 2005

• #24

On or around Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:45:24 +0200, Erik-Jan Geniets
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>
>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>> On or around Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> >I must add at this point (in defence of perkins) that they make some
>> >excellent boat anchors and landfill materials ;-)
>> >Badger.
>>
>> Actually, they make good truck or tractor engines. 's just that for example
>> the 4203 or 4236 are not good land rover engines.
>>
>> I once heard of a rangie with a 6354 in it. Ludicrous.
>
>Would it be wise to start another thread on this ?

why?
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Karen Gallagher

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• Oct 29, 2005

• #25

Erik-Jan Geniets wrote:
> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>>> Erik-Jan.
>>> P.S. a friemd of mine just bought a Milner converted LR 109 with a
>>> Perkins 3.9 L. Diesel.
>>> What actually is a "Milner Conversion"? Just the engine ?
>>
>> 's a good way of breaking the transmission. Half-shafts, mostly.
>>
>> typical comments from the days when this was common: "Got this 4.3l
>> perkins in the land rover, and it's great - I can go up <insert name
>> of local hill> in 4th towing the trailer"
>>
>> followed after a bit by "me half-shaft's broke - bloody land rover
>> keeps breaking"
>>
>> not surprising, if you transmit about twice the torque through it
>> that it was designed for...
>
> It gives less power than a V8 with the same driveline so why would it
> break down with the Perkins and not with a V8?
>
> And back to the original question, is a Milner conversion only the
> engine or more?
>
> btw, we are talking a british licensend car here....KEF XXX ???? A red
> County 4 door saloon shipped to the Netherlands. Familiar to anyone
> ???? White (tropic) roof, 109, 11 seats. Built around 1982.
>
> Kind regards,
> E.J.

A V8 wouild have come with full time 4WD for a start, which will distribute
the torque to four wheels all the time, and have the required 3rd diff.

I'm not familiar with this conversion, but does that come with the uprated
transmission that a V8 does?

Karen
--
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- Slartibartfast

 

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Erik-Jan Geniets

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• Oct 30, 2005

• #26

Karen Gallagher wrote:

> > It gives less power than a V8 with the same driveline so why would it
> > break down with the Perkins and not with a V8?
> >
> > And back to the original question, is a Milner conversion only the
> > engine or more?
> >
> > btw, we are talking a british licensend car here....KEF XXX ???? A red
> > County 4 door saloon shipped to the Netherlands. Familiar to anyone
> > ???? White (tropic) roof, 109, 11 seats. Built around 1982.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > E.J.
>
> A V8 wouild have come with full time 4WD for a start, which will distribute
> the torque to four wheels all the time, and have the required 3rd diff.

Didn't know fill-time 4WD was only featured in the V8.


> I'm not familiar with this conversion, but does that come with the uprated
> transmission that a V8 does?

Don't know. Looks like the transmission and engine are swapped.
The transmission has a knob under the right seat for lo/hi range and
Neutral. (Why Neutral ???)
then there is another knob in the center of the car on top of the box.
It can be pulled forewards.
Do not know what its use is. Might be en air locker for the center diff
???
Do not know otherwise how to shift from 2wd to 4wd if it is possible at
all.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.

 

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Erik-Jan Geniets

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• Oct 30, 2005

• #27

Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> >
> >Would it be wise to start another thread on this ?
>
> why?

User friendly-ness?
Erik-Jan.

 

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GbH

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• Oct 30, 2005

• #28

In news:[email protected],
Erik-Jan Geniets <[email protected]> blithered:
> Karen Gallagher wrote:
>
>>> It gives less power than a V8 with the same driveline so why would
>>> it break down with the Perkins and not with a V8?
>>>
>>> And back to the original question, is a Milner conversion only the
>>> engine or more?
>>>
>>> btw, we are talking a british licensend car here....KEF XXX ???? A
>>> red County 4 door saloon shipped to the Netherlands. Familiar to
>>> anyone ???? White (tropic) roof, 109, 11 seats. Built around 1982.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> E.J.
>>
>> A V8 wouild have come with full time 4WD for a start, which will
>> distribute the torque to four wheels all the time, and have the
>> required 3rd diff.
>
> Didn't know fill-time 4WD was only featured in the V8.
>
>
>> I'm not familiar with this conversion, but does that come with the
>> uprated transmission that a V8 does?
>
> Don't know. Looks like the transmission and engine are swapped.
> The transmission has a knob under the right seat for lo/hi range and
> Neutral. (Why Neutral ???)

PTO?


> then there is another knob in the center of the car on top of the box.
> It can be pulled forewards.
> Do not know what its use is. Might be en air locker for the center
> diff ???
> Do not know otherwise how to shift from 2wd to 4wd if it is possible
> at all.
> Kind regards,
> Erik-Jan.



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beamendsltd

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• Oct 30, 2005

• #29

In message <[email protected]>
Erik-Jan Geniets <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Karen Gallagher wrote:
>
> > > It gives less power than a V8 with the same driveline so why would it
> > > break down with the Perkins and not with a V8?
> > >
> > > And back to the original question, is a Milner conversion only the
> > > engine or more?
> > >
> > > btw, we are talking a british licensend car here....KEF XXX ???? A red
> > > County 4 door saloon shipped to the Netherlands. Familiar to anyone
> > > ???? White (tropic) roof, 109, 11 seats. Built around 1982.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > E.J.
> >
> > A V8 wouild have come with full time 4WD for a start, which will distribute
> > the torque to four wheels all the time, and have the required 3rd diff.
>
> Didn't know fill-time 4WD was only featured in the V8.
>
>
> > I'm not familiar with this conversion, but does that come with the uprated
> > transmission that a V8 does?
>
> Don't know. Looks like the transmission and engine are swapped.
> The transmission has a knob under the right seat for lo/hi range and
> Neutral. (Why Neutral ???)

That's right for a Stage 1 V8. This has a neutral to allow
changing from high to low or vice-versa on the move (slowly!) by
double de-clutching.

> then there is another knob in the center of the car on top of the box.
> It can be pulled forewards.

Thats the vacuum centre diff lock "lever".

> Do not know what its use is. Might be en air locker for the center diff
> ???
> Do not know otherwise how to shift from 2wd to 4wd if it is possible at
> all.

It's in permanent 4WD - with a centre diff lock that should not be
used on tarmac - i.e. the same as a Range Rover. The chances of the
centre diff vacuum actuator actually working, unless it's been changed
recently, is tending towards zero!

> Kind regards,
> Erik-Jan.

Richard
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Erik-Jan Geniets

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• Oct 31, 2005

• #30

GbH wrote:

> PTO?

No !
Neutral on transmission will do.


Kind regards,
E.J.

 

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EMB

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• Oct 31, 2005

• #31

Erik-Jan Geniets wrote:
>
> GbH wrote:
>
>
>>PTO?
>
>
> No !
> Neutral on transmission will do.

No it won't.


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Erik-Jan Geniets

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• Oct 31, 2005

• #32

EMB wrote:
>
> Erik-Jan Geniets wrote:
> >
> > GbH wrote:
> >
> >
> >>PTO?
> >
> >
> > No !
> > Neutral on transmission will do.
>
> No it won't.
>

Sorry, you are both right.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.

 

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Erik-Jan Geniets

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• Oct 31, 2005

• #33

beamendsltd wrote:

>
> Richard

Thanks Richard and others.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan