Beaumont VCU

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You could of course speak to Beaumonts in a diplomatic manner... I'm sure there are those out there who want their looser VCUs but not everyone does. Ask about the 4wd capability. Sound like you need the 4wd aspect to work. There are many who don't and these are ideal for them of course.
 
Yeah I have emailed them the following to which I have had
No reply......

Hi,

I have just had one of your recon VCU's supplied and fitted by LAS Land Rovers in Bangor to my 2004 Freelander 1.

Just after some info on it really. I am told that you supply "Loose" VCU's which avoid damage to other parts is that right? What difference is there compared to an OEM VCU?

Thanks,

Mike


I will wait for a reply the frustrating thing is I specifically said to my specialist that I wanted an OEM equivalent that would be good for off roading with a twin axle caravan in tow!!

If it turns out the vcu fitted is no good what should I do?
 
Ok I have had the Freelander across some fields and all seemed well until I came to a steep, slippery, grassy slope where I found my front wheels spinning and the rear wheel I could see was stationary!! (I am assuming the one on the other side was too) therefore I am assuming that the VCU is not providing drive to the rear wheels. Where do I stand legally speaking with the specialist who fitted this?
 
So does anyone know if Beaumonts do an OEM spec VCU that will give me proper 4wd capability for when towing caravans across a fieldas opposed to this"loose" version I keep hearing about??

I fitted one of their re-con units for my mate, thought I would check it after!

Jacked a front wheel up and tried to drive- Nothing ! no drive what so ever to the rear wheels !

Sorry not what you want to hear !
 
We did'nt take it any further being in France and the fact that there was more chance of the Freelander in question flying to the moon than ever useing 4 wheel drive.

I also know off at least 2 people that have had dodgy re-con gear & transfer boxs off them -enough said !
 
You could of course speak to Beaumonts in a diplomatic manner... I'm sure there are those out there who want their looser VCUs but not everyone does. Ask about the 4wd capability. Sound like you need the 4wd aspect to work. There are many who don't and these are ideal for them of course.

I agree ! So in that case you just take the vcu & props off . Why pay for a vcu that dunt work ?
 
If the VCU was supplied (you did not choose it) and fitted by your LR specialist then it is them that you should complain to - they should be doing the complaining to Beaumonts.

If you get no joy then to talk to Trading Standards - tell them everything.
 
Ok I have had the Freelander across some fields and all seemed well until I came to a steep, slippery, grassy slope where I found my front wheels spinning and the rear wheel I could see was stationary!! (I am assuming the one on the other side was too) therefore I am assuming that the VCU is not providing drive to the rear wheels. Where do I stand legally speaking with the specialist who fitted this?
A comparison with the one wheel up test would be good. If you suspect your vcu is open circuit or very loose then chock the front wheel, lift 1 rear wheel, release the handbrake and you may be able to spin the lifted rear wheel with 1 finger. If not then put a weight on a bar and time it through 45 degrees. Betterer still film it for you tube. You need facts to be able to complain.
 
I find it pretty conclusive that it is a crappy VCU. I tried the slope again on the way home and again front wheels spinning wildly and no spin or movement whatsoever from the rear.

There is no time when traction is lost on the front that the rears would not try to engage is there? Slope too steep etc....?? They should always at least spin right??
 
I am sorry, but this type of thread ****es me off. Not one person has mentioned the superb work that Hippo, NI and others have done on this site :mad:

get off your feckin arse and look"
look in the cFAQ section!
look at the stickies at the top of this forum.

there are several step by step testing methods posted on here.
there are are threads that give you test results to compare with yours.
there are threads on how crap Beaumont are.

do you want us to wipe your arse as well?

if you cant be bothered to look at the sterling work that peeps have done - then feck orf and re invent the wheel..... or VCU in this case! :mad:
 
The reason for doing the test is to find out what your vcu is doing. Spinning or non spinning wheels doesn't give us a datum to work to for comparison. It does suggest a problem but there's more than one possible fault. Some quote a loose vcu as being a good or bad thing. It reduces stress in the transmission but also has an effect on power to the rear wheels. But how loose is loose? What one person may consider loose could be tight to another owner. Even without a vcu fitted Freelander's are tight when reversing on full lock. But how does loose and tight compare? Should we ask someone who doesn't own a Freelander for advice? Perhaps ask some random person walking past? Should we buy a reconditioned vcu knowing that others say they feel betterer, regardless of the fact recon units are often looser than the originals because they've been made like this and test results prove it? How often do I get told vcu suppliers state our test is crap and not worth the hassle? Should we approach this in a more scientific way?

We have in the past had suppliers of vcu's provide faulty units. Some owners have even come on ere and complained. The freds often turn sour or get deleted for legal reasons. We've also had suppliers come on ere and complain about other suppliers but they fail to put the same warning on their own website. Name and shame is all to easy on the web but not so easy on yur own web site. We've even had people remove their vcu because they're so worried about the trouble they cause they want to go 2 wheel drive to avoid disaster. Not once have we found out the truth behind the loose vcu issue. It may have been a faulty batch supplied a few years ago and the supplier is now selling betterer vcu's, but tainted by the vested interests of the web. We simply don't know. It could be the supplier recon vcu's in differing forms (looserer and tighterer) depending on what the owner or garage/fitter request. The facts are there somewhere...

The one wheel up test tells you how your vcu performs under test conditions. It's not perfect but it's the best we have. I get numerous pm's about this and they all get answered with help. People seem to want to go with the flow and convince themselves of the facts via other people's problems. The theory of crowd mentality applies ere. One recent pm requested help with his loose vcu. He can't be named as I'm under threat of having ma hippo burnt if I was to name him as having a wife who owns/drives a Freelander 1. After sending off his, shorry her vcu for replacement with a recon unit imagine his surprise only to find his replacement vcu was just as loose as the one he sent oft. It came as no surprise the seller tests all vcu's received and only sold a replacement as the original was faulty. If he had of bothered to do the one wheel up test he would have realised something in his rear diff is missing. Hence he will never have drive to his, shorry her rear wheels. Your Freelander may or may not suffer with the same problem. It could be your recon vcu is open circuit and the test shows the bar drop like a dead weight. It could be the test completes ok, but much quicker than others in comparison. It could be your vcu is no good and you've got a problem. The one fact we do have is:











I've just eaten a packet of quavers :D
 
The reason for doing the test is to find out what your vcu is doing. Spinning or non spinning wheels doesn't give us a datum to work to for comparison. It does suggest a problem but there's more than one possible fault. Some quote a loose vcu as being a good or bad thing. It reduces stress in the transmission but also has an effect on power to the rear wheels. But how loose is loose? What one person may consider loose could be tight to another owner. Even without a vcu fitted Freelander's are tight when reversing on full lock. But how does loose and tight compare? Should we ask someone who doesn't own a Freelander for advice? Perhaps ask some random person walking past? Should we buy a reconditioned vcu knowing that others say they feel betterer, regardless of the fact recon units are often looser than the originals because they've been made like this and test results prove it? How often do I get told vcu suppliers state our test is crap and not worth the hassle? Should we approach this in a more scientific way?

We have in the past had suppliers of vcu's provide faulty units. Some owners have even come on ere and complained. The freds often turn sour or get deleted for legal reasons. We've also had suppliers come on ere and complain about other suppliers but they fail to put the same warning on their own website. Name and shame is all to easy on the web but not so easy on yur own web site. We've even had people remove their vcu because they're so worried about the trouble they cause they want to go 2 wheel drive to avoid disaster. Not once have we found out the truth behind the loose vcu issue. It may have been a faulty batch supplied a few years ago and the supplier is now selling betterer vcu's, but tainted by the vested interests of the web. We simply don't know. It could be the supplier recon vcu's in differing forms (looserer and tighterer) depending on what the owner or garage/fitter request. The facts are there somewhere...

The one wheel up test tells you how your vcu performs under test conditions. It's not perfect but it's the best we have. I get numerous pm's about this and they all get answered with help. People seem to want to go with the flow and convince themselves of the facts via other people's problems. The theory of crowd mentality applies ere. One recent pm requested help with his loose vcu. He can't be named as I'm under threat of having ma hippo burnt if I was to name him as having a wife who owns/drives a Freelander 1. After sending off his, shorry her vcu for replacement with a recon unit imagine his surprise only to find his replacement vcu was just as loose as the one he sent oft. It came as no surprise the seller tests all vcu's received and only sold a replacement as the original was faulty. If he had of bothered to do the one wheel up test he would have realised something in his rear diff is missing. Hence he will never have drive to his, shorry her rear wheels. Your Freelander may or may not suffer with the same problem. It could be your recon vcu is open circuit and the test shows the bar drop like a dead weight. It could be the test completes ok, but much quicker than others in comparison. It could be your vcu is no good and you've got a problem. The one fact we do have is:











I've just eaten a packet of quavers :D


Thanks for all the help I appreciate it.;)
 
Just watched the vid in your sig- I take it you're a Benny Hill fan..? Wow, that is a seriously nice gaff! Did you do the work yourself? Does the mill workings actually run?
 
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