Back axle looks out of line?

Can anybody tell me what might be the problem.

If i stand and look at the back of landy my back axle appears to be shifted over to the right a good bit (never to the left)

Now then, would this cause my steering to shake when hitting pot holes? It doesnt do it every time... Was really bad at one point but i worked out that if i took a couple of shims from each swivel ball then it half fixed the problem of the shake.

Give us some guidance someone please

Check:

1/. Pivot Block Ball Joint
2/. Lower Link Bushes
3/. Anti-Roll Bar Bushes

Any play and they need to be replaced.

And as far as the shake goes you might want to have a look at the panhard rod bushes on the front axle - those go and it's hell to pay (or at least installing new bushes).

As said above, any play and they need to go.

ajr

mrchurchill109 said:

And as far as the shake goes you might want to have a look at the panhard rod bushes on the front axle - those go and it's hell to pay (or at least installing new bushes).

As said above, any play and they need to go.

ajr

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Ahh thats what else i was gona say.... I replaced the bush in the panhard rod and it fixed the shake.

Now after about two weeks the bush is nackerd again :s ... When turning from left to right with the steering wheel the whole front end moves.

Why has this bush worn out in two weeks?

which axle is out of line? the back or the front?

Sorry its not really clear from the first post, do you have a lift by any chance because as the lift goes up the panhard rod doesnt stretch so has to pull the front axle over a tad, this is why they make adjustable ones for varying axle lifts.

maybe the front is being pulled one way making the rear look off set the other way???

either way front or back, which looks out of line?












edit: yeah yeah i see now its the back :doh: must read thread titles more clearly in future

DiscoPol said:

which axle is out of line? the back or the front?

Sorry its not really clear from the first post, do you have a lift by any chance because as the lift goes up the panhard rod doesnt stretch so has to pull the front axle over a tad, this is why they make adjustable ones for varying axle lifts.

maybe the front is being pulled one way making the rear look off set the other way???

either way front or back, which looks out of line?












edit: yeah yeah i see now its the back :doh: must read thread titles more clearly in future

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Its kinda two questions in one lol... Back axle is out of line (to the right) and wondered why, but also wondered if that would cause the shake on steering.

Then i remembered about the panhard bush wearing out so quickly and the shake coming back?



Edit, no lift kit

Alc said:

Its kinda two questions in one lol... Back axle is out of line (to the right) and wondered why, but also wondered if that would cause the shake on steering.

Then i remembered about the panhard bush wearing out so quickly and the shake coming back?



Edit, no lift kit

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I have the same issues regarding the death wobble as i call it

If the bushes are going away that fast i would begin to suspect fore and aft alignment issues - especially given the other comments you've made.

Do yourself a favor and take some hub-to-hub measurements fromt to back with the wheels straight. I think you might have a bent radius arm or something that is throwing it all out of whack. That being said, it causes all sorts of lovely stress on the bushes and suspension components.

ajr

mrchurchill109 said:

If the bushes are going away that fast i would begin to suspect fore and aft alignment issues - especially given the other comments you've made.

Do yourself a favor and take some hub-to-hub measurements fromt to back with the wheels straight. I think you might have a bent radius arm or something that is throwing it all out of whack. That being said, it causes all sorts of lovely stress on the bushes and suspension components.

ajr

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Before i do that measuring should i find out why the back axle is over to the right more, get that straightened up then proceed with what you said?

Have you checked that both rear rims have the same offset?

and try not to measure using the body.. it could be miles out

Ive not really investigated it much and i see what ya mean about not using the body.
Maybe it is just the body that out because theres no unusual wear on the tyres.

Ill get the tape out tomorrow and have a gander properly.

I just read something that might be where i went wrong. When i fitted the new bush i didnt press it in using just the outer rim. I used the vice to press the whole lot in and the inner rim was sticking out quite a lot on the other side where i used a socket to allow it to come through... If that makes sense?

This is what i found:

when you put the new bushes in did you fit em by pressing on the outer sleave of the bush only?
if you pressed on the centre tube/sleave and not the outer sleave it WILL tear the bonding of the bush to the sleaves.

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Finally got around to taking some measurements and what ive found is the centre of the A frame is 1.5" more to the right.

Is it evan possible to bend that out of line? The body and chassis all appear to be inline and the springs look to go up and to the left so its defiantly shifted over

what are A frame bushes like

Couldnt really tell, ya think it could be just them? It doesnt look bent but hard to tell with the eye

If it was the bushes then wouldnt it be moving about. Its always to the right and never the left or central

Alc said:

If it was the bushes then wouldnt it be moving about. Its always to the right and never the left or central

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you would expect it to move

Ill have to have a go at doing some more measurements i guess... Try and determine if it is bent or not

A frame is very strong i doubt it would be bent ,trailing arm is likely to

I have a 110 that has the rear axle slightly out of line just like yours Alc - to the right maybe about 20mm.

I swapped the A frame with another that had a near new ball joint --- no difference.

With the A frame ball joint not attached to the axle and everything just sitting there the springs are straight up and down and the axle is in the correct place. The A frame ball joint hole is about 20mm out of line with the ball joint.

Chassis/body look straight.

To me that only leaves the A frame mountings to the chassis x member. I've not tried to see of they could move if the bolts were slack, there is no chance of ever getting the blobs of rust to loosen off. Do these mountings have elongated holes that allow a bit of movment?