Are they really any good ?

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My Freelander 2 TD4 was £60 cheaper to tax than my previous Freelander 1 TD4, which make no sense, but then taxes rarely do.

Looks like td4 after 2009 had stop start which would reduce emissions and road tax
 
Start stop is disabled when the car is cold, so for many people only works when you're stuck in traffic for the last mile or so meaning your battery is left in a state of discharge during the working day
 
Yeti not worth a lot
Got new cambelt and water pump though
It's a 62 plate so be lucky to get 2k for it
Might be surprised, chuck reg number into the webuyanycar website.

Think the Yeti is a popular car, and I would say a way better motor than any freelander.
 
Because I am but a thick stoopid furriner.....

WTF are some cars 400 quids and others about the cost of a packet of fags?
Like all UK taxes it is complicated!
Iirc anything under 100gkm emissions is the 30 quid job, anything dirty and over 200 odd gkm like my d3 is 630 quid.
Then they changed it again, so anything posh worth over 40k has to pay an extra sum on top of the normal road tax for the first (I think) thee years, then after three years all the cars have the same cost tax rate.

Basically no one is going to run old dirty cars as the tx will be more than the car is worth.
I have had my d3 for 8.5 years, think is started at 550 quid and now 630, so average it out and that is nearly 5k in road tax, poor old thing aint worth a light anyway!
 
Has that actually been proven in real life, as opposed to on paper?
Start stop increases the load on the engine as the battery charges which means higher emissions. It makes no difference to the majority of the journey anyways
It has a regen system of sorts to help keep battery charged so that would answer the emissions question :)
 
Might be surprised, chuck reg number into the webuyanycar website.

Think the Yeti is a popular car, and I would say a way better motor than any freelander.
Done that and we buy any car said 995 so I aint jumping out the car and singin :D
 
Honestly the 1.8 K with the PG1 gearbox is honestly shít gutless and the gearbox is hopeless, if you want one get the TD4 ;)

Or a Rav 4 ;)
With comments like that you clearly can't have driven one. The PG1 gearbox is a good box and been used in loads of things. That said very few people would be able to tell that PG1 from the Getrag on the Td4, the are very very similar to use. The Td4's known for a sloppy gearchange on high mileage examples.

My Mum had a 1.8 Kalahari edition that was written off and replaced with the Td4 I posted a picture of earlier. Both manuals. The Td4 is more frugal, but not by as much as you'd think and I'd say the petrol drove better on the road.

The petrol is 1.5 sec + quicker 0-60mph than the Td4.
 
With comments like that you clearly can't have driven one. The PG1 gearbox is a good box and been used in loads of things. That said very few people would be able to tell that PG1 from the Getrag on the Td4, the are very very similar to use. The Td4's known for a sloppy gearchange on high mileage examples.

My Mum had a 1.8 Kalahari edition that was written off and replaced with the Td4 I posted a picture of earlier. Both manuals. The Td4 is more frugal, but not by as much as you'd think and I'd say the petrol drove better on the road.

The petrol is 1.5 sec + quicker 0-60mph than the Td4.
@htr has done quite a bit of work on his K Series to get the most out of it. We've driven and compared cars with my L Series), all-be-it quite a while ago...

The K Series is more 'sporty' (not sure if that's the right word). Interestingly though the work he has put in to the car has rissen its mpg on a run to very close to the diesel. As the fuel cost of petrol is cheaper, it probably means his K Series is actually more fuel efficient in monetary terms than a diesel.

I'm not so sure this would be true if you pushed it hard or towed anything though!
 
With comments like that you clearly can't have driven one. The PG1 gearbox is a good box and been used in loads of things. That said very few people would be able to tell that PG1 from the Getrag on the Td4, the are very very similar to use. The Td4's known for a sloppy gearchange on high mileage examples.

My Mum had a 1.8 Kalahari edition that was written off and replaced with the Td4 I posted a picture of earlier. Both manuals. The Td4 is more frugal, but not by as much as you'd think and I'd say the petrol drove better on the road.

The petrol is 1.5 sec + quicker 0-60mph than the Td4.
I do have a photo of mine too, unfortunately!

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And I stand by what I said :)
 
Cheapest 2012 yeti on fleabay is 2450.
Most expensive 2012 is 9995!
My accountant and her fella love their Yeti, diesel Auto, ideal for where they live, which is up a very steep hill.
Not sure what they paid for it, but they aren't short of a few quid.
Likewise my old vet, who actually had a Freelander for a while, but traded it in for a Yeti.
 
@htr has done quite a bit of work on his K Series to get the most out of it. We've driven and compared cars with my L Series), all-be-it quite a while ago...

The K Series is more 'sporty' (not sure if that's the right word). Interestingly though the work he has put in to the car has rissen its mpg on a run to very close to the diesel. As the fuel cost of petrol is cheaper, it probably means his K Series is actually more fuel efficient in monetary terms than a diesel.

I'm not so sure this would be true if you pushed it hard or towed anything though!
I’d assume the diesel should be more fuel efficient still towing. But didn’t tow with either. I have towed with my 1.5 litre 101hp petrol Jimny. And it was far more adept than I’d have given it credit for. I'd guess the 1.8 would tow as well or better.

Mpg wise on a long Wales trip the 1.8 used to do 27-28mpg. It replaced a 2.2 litre petrol Frontera Sport. The Frontera looked great but the 2.2 was gutless by comparison and slower. Also didn’t handle as well as the Freelander.

The Td4 on the first time doing the same trip did 28-29mpg. We have since then improved the mpg with a few mods. Highest I’ve seen is 42mpg and the last trip I did in it I got 37mpg. So certainly better than the petrol. But not such a massive difference overall. The Td4 is grunty (more than stock as I have a Ronbox fitted). But in real hilly areas it is amazing how easy it is to fall off the turbo and it is then flat as a pancake. Some hills it won’t pull 3rd very well, which forces you to run high rpm in 2nd instead. The petrol might not have had the ‘kick’ of the turbo torque, but it would pull from nothing. Making it more refined in some situations.

Both are good. And tbh I really liked the L-Series. Drove both the petrol and diesel back to back at the dealers back in 1998. Arguably the KV6 was the most disappointing. Felt gutless and revvy but not really much quicker than the 1.8 and the auto box was dreadfully sluggish in the steptronic mode. But it has been many years since I’ve been in one. I might have a different view if I drove another one.
 
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I’d assume the diesel should be more fuel efficient still towing. But didn’t tow with either. I have towed with my 1.5 litre 101hp petrol Jimny. And it was far more adept than I’d have given it credit for.

Mpg wise on a long Wales trip the 1.8 used to do 27-28mpg. It replaced a 2.2 litre petrol Frontera Sport. The Frontera looked greater but the 2.2 was gutless by comparison and slower. Also didn’t handle as well as the Freelander.

The Td4 on the first time doing the same trip did 28-29mpg. We have since then improved the mpg with a few mods. Highest I’ve seen is 42mpg and the last trip I did in it I got 37mpg. So certainly better than the petrol. But not such a massive difference overall. The Td4 is grunty (more than stock as I have a Ronbox fitted). But in real hilly areas it is amazing how easy it is to fall off the turbo and it is then flat as a pancake. Some hills it won’t pull 3rd very well, which forces you to run high rpm in 2nd instead. The petrol might not have had the ‘kick’ of the turbo torque, but it would pull from nothing. Making it more refined in some situations.

Both are good. And tbh I really liked the L-Series. Drove both the petrol and diesel back to back at the dealers back in 1998. Arguably the KV6 was the most disappointing. Felt gutless and revvy but not really much quicker than the 1.8 and the auto box was dreadfully sluggish in the steptronic mode. But it has been many years since I’ve been in one. I might have a different view if I drove another one.
SJ/Jimny are an excellent vehicle, worked with them a few times, and been impressed by what they can do.

The only problem with them is trying to buy one at a decent price, there aren't many around, and because they are good, people don't sell them very often.
 
Becoming more of a problem with old cars.
I just paid £365 for tax on my Mondeo. Not that worried about it, as I didn't pay anything for the car.
But the tax on my wife's 10 year old (I think) Fiat Qubo is only a bit over 100 quid, and there isn't much difference in carrying capacity.
one of the “vans” we have is a fiat fiorino 2014 it’s a crew cab with the back seats out and a freelander 1 dog guard as the bulkhead it fits perfectly
its 1.3D and the road tax as just jumped from £30 to £35 a year
 
Surely you should fear the doors fallin often and being groomed by @Hippoo for jolly naughty botty pranks.

We can't change old @Hippoo but there's a potential fix on the door front... It's got a monocoque design, so the doors get jammed shut if you cross axle it, helps hold it all together... so if the doors are falling off, you just need to cross axle it more.
 
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