any eas experts near b,ham.PLEASE HELP

hello lads has some of you may know my rangie,s sitting on the ****anyway i,ve got a good idle with the software and i,m getting a rl incorrect signal fault?but i think the biggest fault is ME not been electronically minded,so is there any eas experts around the b,ham area who don,t mind chipping in to help giz a shout,as per usual all beer will be supplied free of charge.cheers

bart2181 said:

hello lads has some of you may know my rangie,s sitting on the ****anyway i,ve got a good idle with the software and i,m getting a rl incorrect signal fault?but i think the biggest fault is ME not been electronically minded,so is there any eas experts around the b,ham area who don,t mind chipping in to help giz a shout,as per usual all beer will be supplied free of charge.cheers

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It is possibly because the RL is giving the same signal in several positions. This maybe due to contamination by water or a sloppy attachment arm. You should have, on level ground in standard mode, about 470mm from centre of wheel to arch. Measure what you have on each wheel and report back.

bart2181 said:

hello lads has some of you may know my rangie,s sitting on the ****anyway i,ve got a good idle with the software and i,m getting a rl incorrect signal fault?but i think the biggest fault is ME not been electronically minded,so is there any eas experts around the b,ham area who don,t mind chipping in to help giz a shout,as per usual all beer will be supplied free of charge.cheers

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The software is telling you the the rear left sensor signal is incorrect. Either it has water in the sensor or corrosion in the connector, or more likely it is worn out. Check the connector, if that is OK change the sensor, if it has water in it it will be because the "O" ring that seals the shaft has failed.
You will not be able to level the car until you get rid of the fault as the EAS does not know what the position is of the rear left suspension.

cheers wammers,measurements are fl500,fr450,rl580,rr515.there all over the place.thanks again craig

bart2181 said:

cheers wammers,measurements are fl500,fr450,rl580,rr515.there all over the place.thanks again craig

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Those are the readings from the software are they not? The sensor readings are normally variable due to manufacturing tolerances and the fact that you may not be on perfectly level ground. The readings are only a refernce to which you add or subtract to get the car level. To level it you need to take a physical measurment with a ruler from the wheel centre to the edge of the wheel arch and then adjust the software readings until the measurements are the same to within 5mm.

You can't do this until you get rid of the sensor fault so don't waste your time.

bart, just my 2 p worth ,i found dont mess with t sensors , i had a fault on my f l , i took it apart all looked good but cleaned as best i could i then swopped it with t fr and visa versa and guess what t problem followed too t fr, i got a new one problem solved, and now awaiting delivery of a rear as i have a fault there.

nan-ber said:

bart, just my 2 p worth ,i found dont mess with t sensors , i had a fault on my f l , i took it apart all looked good but cleaned as best i could i then swopped it with t fr and visa versa and guess what t problem followed too t fr, i got a new one problem solved, and now awaiting delivery of a rear as i have a fault there.

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Absolutely the right way to go

Datatek said:

Those are the readings from the software are they not? The sensor readings are normally variable due to manufacturing tolerances and the fact that you may not be on perfectly level ground. The readings are only a refernce to which you add or subtract to get the car level. To level it you need to take a physical measurment with a ruler from the wheel centre to the edge of the wheel arch and then adjust the software readings until the measurements are the same to within 5mm.

You can't do this until you get rid of the sensor fault so don't waste your time.

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no wammers they are readings i,ve taken with a ruler.water contamination has been mentioned,can these sensors be taken apart/dried out?or maybe swaped over from side to side,the cars a 96dse.cheers lads

bart2181 said:

cheers wammers,measurements are fl500,fr450,rl580,rr515.there all over the place.thanks again craig

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Ok read the instructions for the EASunlock. Clear the faults and try dropping the RL and FL to a more reasonable height don't be sat in the car when you do this. See what you get. Then work from that. The fact that you are getting reading from the sensor means it's working to a degree. It may just be that your links have got sloppy and it needs resetting. But to be honest they would have to be pretty bad to give those readings. Your looking for 470mm + or -7mm from centre of wheel to arch at standard height. They seem to be all over the place. Do the adjustments in small increments until they are all around the same measurement. Try that to start with and see how you go on. Make a note of all the readouts from the sensors on EASunlock first of all before you save anything to the ECU so you have a reference to return to if you get mixed up. It is not difficult when you get used to it but does take a bit of thinking about when you first start. When you get used to opereting the system you may have to set all three positions access, standard and extended. Motorway is automatic and cannot be changed. Looks like someone has buggered about with it and got it wrong. Maybe the fault on RL is just because it is so far different than the rest.

bart2181 said:

no wammers they are readings i,ve taken with a ruler.water contamination has been mentioned,can these sensors be taken apart/dried out?or maybe swaped over from side to side,the cars a 96dse.cheers lads

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Don't waste your time, if the sensor has water in it the the shaft seal has failed, I posted picture of the insides a while back, they are not repairable. You can swap from side to side but it's a waste of time, the most used track area is almost all the same so it will fail again

Datatek said:

Those are the readings from the software are they not? The sensor readings are normally variable due to manufacturing tolerances and the fact that you may not be on perfectly level ground. The readings are only a refernce to which you add or subtract to get the car level. To level it you need to take a physical measurment with a ruler from the wheel centre to the edge of the wheel arch and then adjust the software readings until the measurements are the same to within 5mm.

You can't do this until you get rid of the sensor fault so don't waste your time.

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No they are the measurements from centre of wheel to arch. Software reading don't go anywhere near that high.

nan-ber i think you,re right there mate,change the sensor,but it does,nt hurt to ask for any simple remedies before going down that route,this is my first experience with eas software and as stated not been electronicly minded i find it a little daunting,would,nt mind if the sun was out.cheers

wammers said:

No they are the measurements from centre of wheel to arch. Software reading don't go anywhere near that high.

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software measurements are.fl125,fr130,rl104,rr106.to be honest i think the cars always had a slight tilt but since the bad weathers been here its got worse,at the moment the rear of the cars in the air but lask week the passenger side was high,drivers side low not just by 5mm but approx 2inch.you,re talking proper on the ****

bart2181 said:

software measurements are.fl125,fr130,rl104,rr106.to be honest i think the cars always had a slight tilt but since the bad weathers been here its got worse,at the moment the rear of the cars in the air but lask week the passenger side was high,drivers side low not just by 5mm but approx 2inch.you,re talking proper on the ****

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Sounds like you may have some dicky sensors. Try rocking the car a few times and taking new readings after each rocking, see if anything changes. All you can do is reset it to correct height, if things change when weather gets better and makes the sensors read differently change the bad ones. They are easy enough to check for linearity with a multi meter.

bart , i did nt think that t sensors on a 96 could be changed from side to side, i think this is only possibly after 97 or have i miss understood your thread.

nan-ber said:

bart , i did nt think that t sensors on a 96 could be changed from side to side, i think this is only possibly after 97 or have i miss understood your thread.

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no matey i,ve been doin a little research and your right the sensors are,nt swapable.i,m under the car tommorow to check it over,if all seems well i,ll have a play with the software and if no joy i,ll have to change the sensor.thanks again.

ok lads it seems someones done a bodge job of the wiring to the rl sensor.i,ve clean all corrosion off terminals and the rl incorrect signal fault has gone.all i have now is"vehicle has moved"fault.can you lads tell meplease when making calibration adjustments does the engine have to be running in order to select the various heights with the software.at the moment the cars sitting at the low setting with a eas fault showing on the dash and no matter what heights selected it won,t move.cheers

bart2181 said:

ok lads it seems someones done a bodge job of the wiring to the rl sensor.i,ve clean all corrosion off terminals and the rl incorrect signal fault has gone.all i have now is"vehicle has moved"fault.can you lads tell meplease when making calibration adjustments does the engine have to be running in order to select the various heights with the software.at the moment the cars sitting at the low setting with a eas fault showing on the dash and no matter what heights selected it won,t move.cheers

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No you can do it all with just ignition on. Remember don't sit in the car to do settings. It must be on dead level ground and unloaded. First thing is to clear faults and unlock EAS..

wammers said:

No you can do it all with just ignition on. Remember don't sit in the car to do settings. It must be on dead level ground and unloaded. First thing is to clear faults and unlock EAS..

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cheers wammers.thats where i,ve fooked up,pressing buttons when nothings happening.how great the eas software is,and it is great.for us less electronicly
minded folk its a little hard to understand sometimes thats why i,m a member of the lz.cheers