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Heads up- next weeks BBC Watchdog programme will feature an anti 4x4 slot.
Can't wait to see balanced a bit of reportint this will be.....

Nevillef

"David Grierson"
<dgrierso@this-will-bounce-if-this-is-not-removed.orangehorse.co.uk> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> <delurk>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just thought I'd post to say that the "Anti urban 4x4 campaign" appears to
> be getting a bit more publicity out there so it might be apt for people to
> start promoting sites (especially) like www.4x4prejudice.org
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dg.
>
> </delurk>


 
"Mr.Nice." <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:12:33 GMT, "nevillef" <F_CK@FF_SPAMMERS.COM>
> wrote:
>
> >Heads up- next weeks BBC Watchdog programme will feature an anti 4x4
slot.
> >Can't wait to see balanced a bit of reportint this will be.....
> >
> >Nevillef
>
> bugger, I'm going to be 'on the road' all next week.

Nicky C'bell set the tone nicely. He said the guest campaigner would explain
why 4x4s should only be seen half way up a montain _where they belong_,
rather than in our cities.

I'm sure the majority of Brits would rather see that smug faced **** half
way up a montain than on our televisions, shame they wont be publicising an
Anti-C'bell campaigns.

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In message <[email protected]>, DavidM <[email protected]>
writes
>"Mr.Nice." <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:12:33 GMT, "nevillef" <F_CK@FF_SPAMMERS.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Heads up- next weeks BBC Watchdog programme will feature an anti 4x4
>slot.
>> >Can't wait to see balanced a bit of reportint this will be.....
>> >
>> >Nevillef
>>
>> bugger, I'm going to be 'on the road' all next week.
>
>Nicky C'bell set the tone nicely. He said the guest campaigner would explain
>why 4x4s should only be seen half way up a montain _where they belong_,
>rather than in our cities.
>
But when Clarkson took a Disco III up a mountain the antis still
complained.
--
hugh
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I saw the best of Top Gear on Monday and it had the bit with the disco going
up the Scottish mountain. I hadn't seen it before, I heard about the flood
of complaints the programme had about Jeremy ripping up the countryside but
from what I saw it was far from the truth. I thought the Disco performed
admirably.
I also rather like Nicky Campbell and Five Live.
Wolverine.
Big Red Defender 110CSW.
"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, DavidM <[email protected]>
> writes
>>"Mr.Nice." <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:12:33 GMT, "nevillef" <F_CK@FF_SPAMMERS.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Heads up- next weeks BBC Watchdog programme will feature an anti 4x4
>>slot.
>>> >Can't wait to see balanced a bit of reportint this will be.....
>>> >
>>> >Nevillef
>>>
>>> bugger, I'm going to be 'on the road' all next week.
>>
>>Nicky C'bell set the tone nicely. He said the guest campaigner would
>>explain
>>why 4x4s should only be seen half way up a montain _where they belong_,
>>rather than in our cities.
>>
> But when Clarkson took a Disco III up a mountain the antis still
> complained.
> --
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting


 
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:01:56 -0000, "DavidM" <djm81@(I hate
spam)cam.ac.uk> made me spill my meths when he wrote:

>Nicky C'bell set the tone nicely. He said the guest campaigner would explain
>why 4x4s should only be seen half way up a montain _where they belong_,
>rather than in our cities.

And all the sports cars halfway up the armco with any luck. Don't see
many rent a celebs complaining about racy type cars.

I'd like to see a well taken photo of a 4X4 being used to repair the
damage done solely by Ramblers, or installing the matting used to slow
down (as opposed to prevent) the wear and tear done by feet up
mountains.


--

Wayne Davies, Harrogate 07989 556213

Just another point of view...
www.4x4prejudice.org
 
In message <[email protected]>, Wolverine
<[email protected]> writes
>I saw the best of Top Gear on Monday and it had the bit with the disco
>going up the Scottish mountain. I hadn't seen it before, I heard about
>the flood of complaints the programme had about Jeremy ripping up the
>countryside but from what I saw it was far from the truth. I thought
>the Disco performed admirably.

I had the same feeling. Whether he should have been there in the first
place was a legitimate argument but from the driving point of view he
cut up what was a *very* soft surface far less than the moron on Channel
5 cut up the green lane ... Even when it sunk he didn't have things
spinning wildly to get it out again ...

--
AndyG
 
In message <[email protected]>, AJG
<[email protected]> writes
>In message <[email protected]>, Wolverine
><[email protected]> writes
>>I saw the best of Top Gear on Monday and it had the bit with the disco
>>going up the Scottish mountain. I hadn't seen it before, I heard about
>>the flood of complaints the programme had about Jeremy ripping up the
>>countryside but from what I saw it was far from the truth. I thought
>>the Disco performed admirably.
>
>I had the same feeling. Whether he should have been there in the first
>place was a legitimate argument but from the driving point of view he
>cut up what was a *very* soft surface far less than the moron on
>Channel 5 cut up the green lane ... Even when it sunk he didn't have
>things spinning wildly to get it out again ...
>


And the ruts will probably have disappeared by now. Also not nearly as
irresponsible as some of the Mitsubishi adverts.

--
hugh
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:01:56 -0000, "DavidM" <djm81@(I hate
> spam)cam.ac.uk> made me spill my meths when he wrote:
>
>>Nicky C'bell set the tone nicely. He said the guest campaigner would
>>explain
>>why 4x4s should only be seen half way up a montain _where they belong_,
>>rather than in our cities.
>
> And all the sports cars halfway up the armco with any luck. Don't see
> many rent a celebs complaining about racy type cars.
>
> I'd like to see a well taken photo of a 4X4 being used to repair the
> damage done solely by Ramblers, or installing the matting used to slow
> down (as opposed to prevent) the wear and tear done by feet up
> mountains.
>
>
> --
>
> Wayne Davies, Harrogate 07989 556213
>
> Just another point of view...
> www.4x4prejudice.org

What exactly are these damned idiots objecting to? The size of our 4x4's
because if so Jags, Mercs, Rollers, Lexus, estate cars in general are all
longer, some heavier and all as wide as the humble 4x4.


 
In message <[email protected]>, cyberwraith
<[email protected]> writes
>What exactly are these damned idiots objecting to? The size of our
>4x4's because if so Jags, Mercs, Rollers, Lexus, estate cars in general
>are all longer, some heavier and all as wide as the humble 4x4.

Obviously you haven't been concentrating. The argument is fundamentally
that 4x4 vehicles are too scary. They intimidate terribly when you're
driving your Sinclair Smart car ... unlike 44ton artics or
Irish-registered, pollutant-pumping, double-decker buses which, whilst
gently caressing your rear bumper at 60mph, are both friendly and cuddly
as they are only two wheel drive ...
4x4s also contribute to accidents - how many Ford Kas have been in
accidents because a Range Rover driver mistook them for a traffic
calming measure and drove over them ... ?


--
AndyG
 
Well this afternoon some kind soul in her silver Vauxhall Corsa decided to
cut me up in my Disco! I hit the brakes hard and swerved, just missing her.
I called over that maybe she should have used her mirrors, indicators and
even maybe should have been in the correct lane. So in my opinion these
small cars are more likely to cause damage to my poor defenceless Disco. Or
next time I might just go over the stupid sod. Look at it this way if they
are complaining against us in our 4x4's then they are giving some other poor
soul a rest. As far as celebs getting involved they should first practice
what they preach. It is still a 'free' country and I will drive my god
damned 4x4 and smoke my damned cigar!


"Mr.Nice." <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:43:50 GMT, "cyberwraith"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:01:56 -0000, "DavidM" <djm81@(I hate
>>> spam)cam.ac.uk> made me spill my meths when he wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nicky C'bell set the tone nicely. He said the guest campaigner would
>>>>explain
>>>>why 4x4s should only be seen half way up a montain _where they belong_,
>>>>rather than in our cities.
>>>
>>> And all the sports cars halfway up the armco with any luck. Don't see
>>> many rent a celebs complaining about racy type cars.
>>>
>>> I'd like to see a well taken photo of a 4X4 being used to repair the
>>> damage done solely by Ramblers, or installing the matting used to slow
>>> down (as opposed to prevent) the wear and tear done by feet up
>>> mountains.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Wayne Davies, Harrogate 07989 556213
>>>
>>> Just another point of view...
>>> www.4x4prejudice.org
>>
>>What exactly are these damned idiots objecting to? The size of our 4x4's
>>because if so Jags, Mercs, Rollers, Lexus, estate cars in general are all
>>longer, some heavier and all as wide as the humble 4x4.
>
> Mostly I've heard them complaining that we are more likely to kill a
> pedestrian than they are, cause more damage to their cars due to extra
> weight, more likely to punch one in the mouth (or is that just me?).
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
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"cyberwraith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well this afternoon some kind soul in her silver Vauxhall Corsa decided to
> cut me up in my Disco! I hit the brakes hard and swerved, just missing
> her. I called over that maybe she should have used her mirrors, indicators
> and even maybe should have been in the correct lane. So in my opinion
> these small cars are more likely to cause damage to my poor defenceless
> Disco. Or next time I might just go over the stupid sod. Look at it this
> way if they are complaining against us in our 4x4's then they are giving
> some other poor soul a rest. As far as celebs getting involved they should
> first practice what they preach. It is still a 'free' country and I will
> drive my god damned 4x4 and smoke my damned cigar!

Well, I have to admit our Rangie contributed to an accident. I mean if I
hadn't been driving along a main road when the retard in the Rover coupe
came flying out of a side road and didn't even look let alone stop..well he
would never have run into me. He fully admitted not looking and on a quick
examination of his windows his glass was all misted up anyway... still would
have thought headlights at 6.30 am would have been a bit of a clue as to the
presence of something approaching, but no.

My only thoughts after the event were casting my mind back to 1995 when I
made the choice between getting seriously into motorcyles but in the end
opted for a Rangie V8 instead. I feel now that it was a decision that saved
my life or at the least kept me from being very seriously injured. I'd love
a motorbike but while there are fools like this on the road I dare not take
the chance.

Lee D


 
I wonder how many of us on this NG have or have had motorbikes? Count me
in, TZR125, TZR250RR Kocinski Replica and then FZR400RR Exup...then the kids
came along!!! I passed my car test first then my bike test. I had Landrovers
then went to bikes and after a couple of normal cars; back to Landrovers.
After riding a bike I have always felt that a length of time riding a
motorbike or scooter would benefit everyone before learning in a car,
certainly for teenager learner drivers...lots of youths have scooters in
Holland for example.
Wolverine
Big Red 110CSW

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "cyberwraith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Well this afternoon some kind soul in her silver Vauxhall Corsa decided
>> to cut me up in my Disco! I hit the brakes hard and swerved, just missing
>> her. I called over that maybe she should have used her mirrors,
>> indicators and even maybe should have been in the correct lane. So in my
>> opinion these small cars are more likely to cause damage to my poor
>> defenceless Disco. Or next time I might just go over the stupid sod. Look
>> at it this way if they are complaining against us in our 4x4's then they
>> are giving some other poor soul a rest. As far as celebs getting involved
>> they should first practice what they preach. It is still a 'free' country
>> and I will drive my god damned 4x4 and smoke my damned cigar!
>
> Well, I have to admit our Rangie contributed to an accident. I mean if I
> hadn't been driving along a main road when the retard in the Rover coupe
> came flying out of a side road and didn't even look let alone stop..well
> he would never have run into me. He fully admitted not looking and on a
> quick examination of his windows his glass was all misted up anyway...
> still would have thought headlights at 6.30 am would have been a bit of a
> clue as to the presence of something approaching, but no.
>
> My only thoughts after the event were casting my mind back to 1995 when I
> made the choice between getting seriously into motorcyles but in the end
> opted for a Rangie V8 instead. I feel now that it was a decision that
> saved my life or at the least kept me from being very seriously injured.
> I'd love a motorbike but while there are fools like this on the road I
> dare not take the chance.
>
> Lee D
>


 
I used to have a motorbike, a humble Honda CM 125 Custom. I was saving for a
Goldwing but some pillock cut me off, took me out and that is why I am
disabled! I now drive my Disco which has been cut up several times by little
cars who claim not to have seen me! I think that just maybe my bull bars are
going to start acumulating little car icons for every pillock who cuts up,
cuts in or just plain ignores the rules of the road. I could quite easily
puch my way through traffic but I behave myself, this is a trait that is on
the verge of changing.

"Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wolverine composed the following;:
>
>> I wonder how many of us on this NG have or have had motorbikes?
>
> We only have two at the moment, a 1991 Fantic 307 Trials and a 1979
> Beamish Suzuki, both 250's, both awesome off-road.
>
> Fantic's nice and nimble, quick and light for my sons to ride, the Beamish
> is a Tree-Stump puller, big heavy and a bastard power band, but with loads
> of torque and grip ... ;)
>
> --
> Paul ...
> http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
> (8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
> "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
So Wolverine was, like

> I wonder how many of us on this NG have or have had motorbikes? Count
> me in, TZR125, TZR250RR Kocinski Replica and then FZR400RR
> Exup

In no particular order, Honda 50, Honda 90, Suzi GT250, Jawa 350*, Yam XT350
(x2), Yam RD350LC, Guzzi V50II, Suzi GSX750F, and probably no more. The
roads have just got too scary, and I like to have a Landy bodywork around me
these days. :)

* uuuuuurrrrrrrgggggggggh

--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous


 
On or around Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:43 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
[email protected] (Niamh Holding) enlightened us thusly:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] (Wolverine) wrote:
>
>> I wonder how many of us on this NG have or have had motorbikes? Count
>> me in, TZR125, TZR250RR Kocinski Replica and then FZR400RR Exup..
>
>Currently riding a CBR600.

mine's in the shed awaiting a new tyre, a new MOT and some decent weather.
Call me a fair-weather biker if you will, but I had plenty of riding in the
rain, wind and snow and ice when I had a bike as my only transport. 's for
fun, now.

http://www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk/boxer.

Looking at that, the chrome on the pattern BSA cans is suffering a bit these
days. Dunno if I'll ever find any more like 'em - these are
straight-through ones with no baffles :)
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Where they make a desert they call it peace" Tacitus (c.55 - c.117)
Agricola, 30
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:12:19 -0000, "Wolverine"
<[email protected]> made me spill my meths when he
wrote:

> I wonder how many of us on this NG have or have had motorbikes? Count me
>in, TZR125, TZR250RR Kocinski Replica and then FZR400RR Exup

Used to have as a teenager CB125T, CB125T Superdream, GS250T, KH250
(x2), XL185S, RD350YPVS (x2) XR350R, Most of those at the same time
because the Norwich Union rider policy let me have loads of bikes up
to 350cc. CX500 (cough, no-one ever got piles riding one of those),
KH400, KMX200. In them days I used to moan about riders who used their
cars a lot instead of riding, 'course, didn't have a car myself so
didn't know any better :) The daft thing was that car insurance at
that age was just as daft as it is today so the bikes really were a
good option and much more fun, didn;t know about Land Rover ownership
back then, wish I had got into it then when the nice military stuff
was becoming available.

Currently got Can-Am Bombardier 250, Armstrong MT500 (x4) BMW R90.
All made so much easier by the classic military policy that lets you
have many at a brilliant rate. Note that there is nothing fast in the
current lot, too scary out there with drum brakes on the front.

Might actually get them out to play with this summer, getting soft in
my old age, hmm, think I was always this soft :)
--

Wayne Davies, Harrogate 07989 556213

Just another point of view...
www.4x4prejudice.org
 
In message <[email protected]>, Niamh Holding
<[email protected]> writes
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] (Wolverine) wrote:
>
>> I wonder how many of us on this NG have or have had motorbikes? Count
>> me in, TZR125, TZR250RR Kocinski Replica and then FZR400RR Exup..
>
>Currently riding a CBR600.
>
Bit dangerous riding one of those whilst typing, or do you have a voice
recognition system that works. (About as rare as a LR that doesn't leak
oil)
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 

"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So Wolverine was, like
>
> > I wonder how many of us on this NG have or have had motorbikes? Count
> > me in, TZR125, TZR250RR Kocinski Replica and then FZR400RR
> > Exup
>
currently (93)RD350Rypvs (79)GS550E


 
On Thursday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "cyberwraith" wrote:

> What exactly are these damned idiots objecting to? The size of our 4x4's
> because if so Jags, Mercs, Rollers, Lexus, estate cars in general are all
> longer, some heavier and all as wide as the humble 4x4.

I was in the supermarket carpark yesterday, parked next to what BMW
alleges is a "Mini". My Land Rover is shorter and narrower.

(I learnt to drive on a genuine Mini. You had to be careful not to
drop te wheel in a rut, but it would have handled many green lanes. I
wonder what these idiots would think of a Mini Moke.)

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six."
 
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