Anti theft

Rorie · Feb 22, 2019

posted a million times - i’ve read through lots of previous posts with interest.

I’m definitely getting a geo tag.

I’m thinking as a deterrent a pedal box is best, but any brands better than others, or all much and such?

One is a deterrent to the opportunist, but will slow down someone committed. The tag is admitting it will be taken!

But what about stopping the man with a trailer? I guess even a gear lever lock is pointless for that on a 90 as they will just drag it with wheels locked?

If so, I guess there isn’t much point getting any more than one deterrent +GPS tracker?

MudHunter · Feb 22, 2019

Pedal box wise I’d go for one which stays attached and folds flat on the floor when not in use. The cheaper ones have to be removed and stowed and they’re big and heavy

Litch · Feb 22, 2019

"But what about stopping the man with a trailer? I guess even a gear lever lock is pointless for that on a 90 as they will just drag it with wheels locked?
If so, I guess there isn’t much point getting any more than one deterrent +GPS tracker?"

Up to you but in my opinion it is more likely to be someone trying to steel it quietly rather than making lots of noise cutting through physical devices and / or dragging it up a ramp onto a vehicle.
Multi-layer is the key, make it as difficult as possible and show that you intend to slow them down. A locating device is great (I have Skytag on both my 90 and motorcaravan) but it can't be seen whereas big chunks of steel across the steering wheel & pedals, a security post etc show that the vehicle is protected and who knows what else may lie beneath?
Of course, any security device is only effective when you fit it. If you decide that you can't be bothered as you are "only going to be away for an hour or so" makes it worthless as a deterrent. Buy it and use it.

Wimblowdriver · Feb 22, 2019

Rorie said:
a pedal box is best,

Get one which completely covers the pedals. Any part of the pedals left exposed can be cut through to remove the box, thief can drive away using the pedal stumps.

UsInWorld · Feb 22, 2019

Wimblowdriver said:
Get one which completely covers the pedals. Any part of the pedals left exposed can be cut through to remove the box, thief can drive away using the pedal stumps.

Think its abit of a myth, When we considered which pedal lock to buy mudstuff was contacted and this was their reply:

Hi
Thanks for your email. We've never had a instance of that being reported, and we've sold a couple of thousand. Furthermore in the development stage of the 'ardcase the designers did chop the pedals off with one fitted and it was impossible to drive the car!

Guess crawling under the car with a grinder and removing bolts that holds the floors mounted one is easier?

Mac90 · Feb 23, 2019

I think a belt and braces approach is definitely the way forward. Like LITCH says, multilayer.

I have a disklok, pedal box, immobiliser, and I'm considering the GPS locator options available.

Would be great if thieving scum would just gtf as well...

Wimblowdriver · Feb 23, 2019

Black Stone said:
Hello, last night around midnight my Defender was subject to an attempted theft by four men. I returned home at 10.30pm then went through the same security procedure, adding the Disklok to the steering wheel then the clutch claw to the clutch and break pedal. I then locked my Defender and went bed. At 1pm I was woken up with that most dreaded of phone calls from the police, an attempted theft of the vehicle. I looked outside to see a police car next to the Defender about 20 meters from my flat. The thieves had been interrupted by a passer by who phoned the police, the four men scarpered leaving a scene of destruction.
Both headlamps and indicators had been stripped and left and right hand wiring looms were hanging out! I immediately realised it was organised as they'd targeted the alarm system and central locking. Inside the Disklok had been pincered open at the bottom hinge and removed. The brake pedal had been sawn off leaving the clutch claw attached to the clutch pedal. The steering column was in bits with wires everywhere. On closer inspection the ignition barrel had had something jammed into it to try and start it. The Defender was also parked under cctv which hasn't seemed to bother them in the slightest. As you can imagine I was and still am devastated. You assume its never going to happen and the relocation of the alarm system was next on my list.

The police were actually very helpful and stayed with it until a recovery vehicle collected it around 3am. It was clearly a targeted theft and happened very quickly, I have to say that although they found ways around the metal work security, it definitely slowed them down, and thankfully the police were notified and arrived pretty quickly.
Its an awful experience to go through especially when ive only had it 6 weeks. Make sure you do all you can to protect these vehicles from organised crime units. The damage is awaiting assessment by the insurer so hopefully it wont take too long to get her back. I'll definitely be looking into more security options and a tracker device.

There has been a number of posts on Landyzone where members have reported pedals being cut through and vehicle taken. One example above. You decide whether it is a myth or not, do your risk assessment. In my own assessment, the more the pedals are exposed the greater the risk of the pedal lock being removed.

doriz · Feb 23, 2019

Pedal lock, gear lever lock, steering lock and battery disconnected. Just adds time to a theft and hopefully encourages an opportunist to walk on by.

Sofasurfer · Feb 23, 2019

If you have nice alloys, drug dealer tyres, roof rack, winch, snorkel, a rack full of lights, plus loads of tools in the back, leather seats etc. You are much more likely to be targeted by scum that will dismantle and sell the bits. If you have an old bog standard scruffy Defender with lots of bumps and scrapes it might be nicked by some opportunist scumbag that just wants a motor to get home in, it's not worth dismantling. Layers of security on an old Defender will deter the opportunist, nothing will deter the organised criminal.

mick 1986 · Feb 23, 2019

Sofasurfer said:
If you have nice alloys, drug dealer tyres, roof rack, winch, snorkel, a rack full of lights, plus loads of tools in the back, leather seats etc. You are much more likely to be targeted by scum that will dismantle and sell the bits. If you have an old bog standard scruffy Defender with lots of bumps and scrapes it might be nicked by some opportunist scumbag that just wants a motor to get home in, it's not worth dismantling. Layers of security on an old Defender will deter the opportunist, nothing will deter the organised criminal.

Where is the evidence to support the claim that “more bits” means it’s more likely to be stolen? Insurance companies will tell you the complete opposite, the more unique it is, the less likely it is to be stolen.

doriz · Feb 23, 2019

mick 1986 said:
Where is the evidence

...to support any argument on LZ

landowner · Feb 23, 2019

mick 1986 said:
Where is the evidence to support the claim that “more bits” means it’s more likely to be stolen? Insurance companies will tell you the complete opposite, the more unique it is, the less likely it is to be stolen.

Which would you go for if nicking one for max profit ?

mick 1986 · Feb 23, 2019

landowner said:
Which would you go for if nicking one for max profit ?

I wouldn’t. The one with least visible security will probably be the target, regardless of what is bolted onto it.

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