"Nigel" <
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> Dave P wrote:
>> Remember the farmer who was killed when he tried to stop some gyppo
>> stealing his Land Rover last year? Turns out the killer was released
>> after serving only half of his sentence for burgling from farms.
>>
>> Why doesn't 3½ years in prison mean 3½ years in prison? In reality,
>> every sentence is half as long as the judge hands down, unless you are
>> really naughty when you are in there, it seems. Ten years for murder,
>> walk free in five. Can anyone with the appropriate knowledge explain
>> why this is so?
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1969888,00.html
>>
>> DaveP
>
> Our prisons are overcrowded, so spend millions to build new ones or just
> let everyone out early thus freeing space for others to go to prison.
> Letting people out early also means it costs less to keep them in prison
> cos they are not in as long. If everyone served their full term in prison
> we would need twice the number of prisons.
>
> Nigel
Ok, I've kept out of this thread so far, but I can't hold back any longer!
Rant mode ON!
It should be a right of any decent law-abiding citizen to protect his family
and property, period. If that means knee-capping some pikey (insert other
name of your personal choice, but up here we refer to this sort of scum as
pikeys) ****er when you catch him trying to steal your car/break into your
home etc etc then so be it. If I am ever in that position, I wouldn't
hesitate to defend myself, my family and my property by whatever means I
feel is justified at the time, and argue the self-defense / minimum force
laws afterwards. That farmer that shot that bloke a couple of years back
(tony somebody, was it?) was quite bloody right, the little **** had no
lawful right to be doing what he did and therefore had no right to
protection by the law whilst commiting an unlawful act! The "person" that
killed the farmer whilst nicking his landy was guilty of murder and should
have served a sentence for murder, not a sentence more equivalent to theft!
What we do indeed need Nige, are more prisons and a return to traditional
imprisonment, i.e. a removal of ALL liberty. No tv, no radios, no libraries,
machine shops, woodworking classes etc etc etc coupled with strict
discipline rules and realistic sentences to match the crime commited. Now,
that would act as a decent deterrent to crime, and nothing else ever will.
Send all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders to Iraq or Afghanistan and let
us get on with things in a manner that works for once!
The persons referred to further back in this thread for taking over the car
park and not getting a single fine should have been fined on the spot and
locked up if they don't pay up, just because they happen to be "travelling
people" should NOT exempt them from the laws of the land, the same goes for
a vast majority of all the foreigners descending upon our shores in pursuit
of an easy life.
I personally know a few travelling families, they don't leave burnt out
wrecks and sofas wherever they go, they live clean, legal lifestyles with
good moral values, but they constantly get tarred with the same
"gippo/pikey" brush because of how they choose to lead their lives. Let's
face it, all they are doing is utilising loopholes in the taxation rules so
as not to pay council tax (much the same as someone chosing to drive an old
car so as not to pay road tax!), they are working as self-employed
contractors and being taxed for it the same as most of us are, they simply
choose to live a different lifestyle but are let down by what is probably a
minority of their type.
Mate of mine lost his house in a bad fire some months ago and he is
regularly finding the garage door jemmied open and silly little things
stolen, christ, the buggers have just nicked the cb aerial (18-odd foot
monster of a thing!) off the back wall of the garage!! We've just spent 3
days emptying all the valuable/attractive items (restored car, tools etc)
into secure storage. If we catch them, we'll send the leftovers in assorted
jiffy bags to the local pigs who seem to be incapable of doing anything
useful to help at all!
Rant mode OFF, I feel better now!
Happy new year to all the decent, law abiding people out there ;-)
Badger.
