88" rear propshaft

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I've installed a LT77 and LT230 in my 88" series III, modified the
front axle to accept the half shafts fom a Stage I with CV joints and
replaced the Rover rear axle with a Salisbury to withstand the
torque(retaining the original final drives).
After cutting the propshafts to the correct new lengths and having had
no problem with the front, the rear propshaft yoke at the handbrake
drum went out of angle, could not accept the angle required because of
the short length and the difference in height between the transfer case
and axle(parabolic spring).
Has anybody experienced the same problem ? Any yoke that has a greater
angle capability ?
Thanks !

 
In message <[email protected]>
"rovieman" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've installed a LT77 and LT230 in my 88" series III, modified the
> front axle to accept the half shafts fom a Stage I with CV joints and
> replaced the Rover rear axle with a Salisbury to withstand the
> torque(retaining the original final drives).
> After cutting the propshafts to the correct new lengths and having had
> no problem with the front, the rear propshaft yoke at the handbrake
> drum went out of angle, could not accept the angle required because of
> the short length and the difference in height between the transfer case
> and axle(parabolic spring).
> Has anybody experienced the same problem ? Any yoke that has a greater
> angle capability ?
> Thanks !
>

Have you tilted the Sailsbury axle? You'll need to do this to get
acceptable angles on the prop. Make, or have made, some wedges that
go from however-many-mm-required to nothing and put them between the
axle tube and spring.

Richard
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Yes, I have Richard. Since the 88" chassis is narrower than the 109", I
had to move the spring mountings(or whatever you call it)on the axle
inwards and at the same time gave it a 7 degree tilt. The yoke at the
axle end is OK but at the transfer case end is where the trouble is.
I'll try to grind a couple of thou off and give it some clearance which
hopefully would be enough to accomodate the extra angle.
Thanks anyway Richard !

beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> "rovieman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I've installed a LT77 and LT230 in my 88" series III, modified the
> > front axle to accept the half shafts fom a Stage I with CV joints and
> > replaced the Rover rear axle with a Salisbury to withstand the
> > torque(retaining the original final drives).
> > After cutting the propshafts to the correct new lengths and having had
> > no problem with the front, the rear propshaft yoke at the handbrake
> > drum went out of angle, could not accept the angle required because of
> > the short length and the difference in height between the transfer case
> > and axle(parabolic spring).
> > Has anybody experienced the same problem ? Any yoke that has a greater
> > angle capability ?
> > Thanks !
> >
>
> Have you tilted the Sailsbury axle? You'll need to do this to get
> acceptable angles on the prop. Make, or have made, some wedges that
> go from however-many-mm-required to nothing and put them between the
> axle tube and spring.
>
> Richard
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
> Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay

 
Yes, I have Richard. Since the 88" chassis is narrower than the 109", I
had to move the spring mountings(or whatever you call it)on the axle
inwards and at the same time gave it a 7 degree tilt. The yoke at the
axle end is OK but at the transfer case end is where the trouble is.
I'll try to grind a couple of thou off and give it some clearance which
hopefully would be enough to accomodate the extra angle.
Thanks anyway Richard !

beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> "rovieman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I've installed a LT77 and LT230 in my 88" series III, modified the
> > front axle to accept the half shafts fom a Stage I with CV joints and
> > replaced the Rover rear axle with a Salisbury to withstand the
> > torque(retaining the original final drives).
> > After cutting the propshafts to the correct new lengths and having had
> > no problem with the front, the rear propshaft yoke at the handbrake
> > drum went out of angle, could not accept the angle required because of
> > the short length and the difference in height between the transfer case
> > and axle(parabolic spring).
> > Has anybody experienced the same problem ? Any yoke that has a greater
> > angle capability ?
> > Thanks !
> >
>
> Have you tilted the Sailsbury axle? You'll need to do this to get
> acceptable angles on the prop. Make, or have made, some wedges that
> go from however-many-mm-required to nothing and put them between the
> axle tube and spring.
>
> Richard
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
> Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay

 
rovieman wrote:

> Yes, I have Richard. Since the 88" chassis is narrower than the 109", I
> had to move the spring mountings(or whatever you call it)on the axle
> inwards and at the same time gave it a 7 degree tilt. The yoke at the
> axle end is OK but at the transfer case end is where the trouble is.
> I'll try to grind a couple of thou off and give it some clearance which
> hopefully would be enough to accomodate the extra angle.
> Thanks anyway Richard !

There are yokes around with greater angular capability than the standard
rear yokes. Did the early RR use them on the front shaft?

If you can't grind your way out of the problem try your local propshaft
reconditioning place.

Make sure to give some positive clearance (i.e. a bit more than just
enough) to allow for clearance in the neeedle roller bearing especially
when it wears. Take the meat off the flange rather than the bearing
housings.
 
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:00:31 +0000, Dougal
<DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> scribbled the following
nonsense:

>rovieman wrote:
>
>> Yes, I have Richard. Since the 88" chassis is narrower than the 109", I
>> had to move the spring mountings(or whatever you call it)on the axle
>> inwards and at the same time gave it a 7 degree tilt. The yoke at the
>> axle end is OK but at the transfer case end is where the trouble is.
>> I'll try to grind a couple of thou off and give it some clearance which
>> hopefully would be enough to accomodate the extra angle.
>> Thanks anyway Richard !
>
>There are yokes around with greater angular capability than the standard
>rear yokes. Did the early RR use them on the front shaft?
>
>If you can't grind your way out of the problem try your local propshaft
>reconditioning place.
>
>Make sure to give some positive clearance (i.e. a bit more than just
>enough) to allow for clearance in the neeedle roller bearing especially
>when it wears. Take the meat off the flange rather than the bearing
>housings.

Either that or a double cardon prop shaft, scrapiron racing
(www.scorpionracing.co.uk) sell quite a lot of these to people with
lifted or extreme suspension vehicles to allow the props to operate
normally without binding.
--

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Thanks everyone !
I'll get back with the result of grinding(the flange) in a couple of
days.
Scorpion Racing will be the last resort since I'm in Indonesia.

Hertriono Kartowisastro

 
Hi, if you could measure from the mating side of the flange to the centre of
the spider cap where the cir clip is with the prop straight I could tell you
the size of the ones on my SIIA 88" V8 Land Rover, I had the same problem
and got some props with long reach Yokes, as far as I can remember they were
standard items for Land Rovers or Range Rovers but I don't know what they
were off as the chap I got them from just had a stack of props and I just
searched through them. Good luck and happy Land Rovering

Rich
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"rovieman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks everyone !
> I'll get back with the result of grinding(the flange) in a couple of
> days.
> Scorpion Racing will be the last resort since I'm in Indonesia.
>
> Hertriono Kartowisastro
>


 
I've done it ! Grinded the flange through and a slight bit on the
bearing housing and got plenty of play/clearance now.
Answering your question Rich, it's 1-7/16". What's yours ?
Thanks again everybody !

Hertriono

 
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