55 quid for someone to plug a laptop in??

I have a couple of errors coming up on my P38 and the heaters have now stopped working at all, they don't blow at all and the little book is on the screen. Spoke to Vale 4X4 in Cowbridge yesterday and he said it would be £55 to read off the codes. Is this about right or does anyone know of somewhere cheaper in the South Wales area?

Cheers Chris

Rip the dash out and the seats,sell them to me.Burn the rest and claim your insurance.....

You'r lucky-main stealers over here charge min. 1 hour @ €85+ VAT @ 21.5% no matter how quickly they sort it. I charge €35 an hour if the car comes to me,with a brew thrown in.

i managed to get mine plugged in £40 cash, made out i was skint which i am same as everybody else. took 15min to reset airbag check all codes for faults and no faults recorded. usually £55 which he said is the hourly rate they charge. that in surrey and the bloke a god send i tell ya.

Chris_300 said:

I have a couple of errors coming up on my P38 and the heaters have now stopped working at all, they don't blow at all and the little book is on the screen. Spoke to Vale 4X4 in Cowbridge yesterday and he said it would be £55 to read off the codes. Is this about right or does anyone know of somewhere cheaper in the South Wales area?

Cheers Chris

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Are you just wanting the HeVAC codes read?? If the HeVAC is your only problem then some simple troubleshooting might be able to avoid the code read. Blowers not running at all - have you checked the relays for them under the bonnet, coolant can get spilt in the fuse box and corrode the contacts. Do the relays look burnt at all?? -Wills

Cheers for the responses fellas, I think I'll leave off setting light to it just yet though lol.

I am getting a few different errors though. 1 on the message console in the instrument cluster saying the is an Airbag fault and another here saying the windows aren't set. I have tried re-setting them as per instructions on here but no joy.

The book symbols has also come up on the screen for the heater controls, is this the HeVac?
I will check the relays when I get home tonight though.

Cheers

Chris_300 said:

Cheers for the responses fellas, I think I'll leave off setting light to it just yet though lol.

I am getting a few different errors though. 1 on the message console in the instrument cluster saying the is an Airbag fault and another here saying the windows aren't set. I have tried re-setting them as per instructions on here but no joy.

The book symbols has also come up on the screen for the heater controls, is this the HeVac?
I will check the relays when I get home tonight though.

Cheers

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Protech near llantrisant I think were offering to clear codes for £35 probably similar for reading codes after. go over to rangerovers.net and onto maintenance to look for tests you can do for the HEVAC. Airbag fault is going to need garage I think, Protech offered me £235 I think for full service, five oil replacements, pollen filters, etc. Protech do not have the best reputation from what I understand but as long as you have done your research as to the nature of the problem and walk away to do research if they try and say such and such needs replacing you should be OK.

Cheers

Adam

I might be blind or something but I coulnd'nt find any HEVAC tests on that site. Does anyone know where abouts the blower is behind the dash? Is it possible to get to it?
Checked the fuses and the relays and they look fine, any ideas what else could stop the blower working?
If I get get to it I should be able to connect it up to see if the motor has burnt out

Cheers

The tests should be on.Range Rovers but basically involve checking temperature from min to max both sides individually,air distribution from floor to screen through the range, blower speed range from min to max, operation of the interior temp. sensor (Behind the small circular grille under the clock) and the solar sensor located on top of the dash between the demist vents. There are two blower motors located either side of the heater,connected by ducting.
If you still can't find details of the checks, let us know.

Forgot to add that temp. & distribution checks are carried out in manual mode using the buttons on the HEVAC unit.

It seems I need a copy of The Electrical Troubleshooting Manual (ETM)

Does anyone have a link to this?? I think this will include the tests you are refering to IrishRover

Cheers Chris

The checks were on the Range Rovers site but the link has gone. As I wrote before, run the distribution, blower motors & heat flaps through their full range in manual. With the unit then in auto mode, hold a cigarette lighter in front of the small sensor grille, the sensor will detect the heat and the blowers will change speed-you can use a lit cigarette instead if you are a smoker-the sensor has a fan behind it which draws the air over a sensor, the fan can stick, Next the solar sensor on the dash, shine a bright torch directly at the sensor and the fan speed should change. A further temperature sensor is clipped on one of the heater matrix feed pipes and the clip and sensor is known to fail. Yet another sensor is fitted into the heater box on the passenger side but these rarely give problems.

Thanks for that. Ran those test's and no matter what setting I try the fans won't blow at all. Sounds like the flaps are working to change the direction of the flow but there is no flow??

The test's listed seem to diagnose the system when the blowers are actually working but I am not getting any air flow at all. It doesn't even sound like the fan motor is trying to work. I will download RAVE tonight I think, see if theres a trouble shooting guide on there.

Cheers

Good idea-at least you can follow the circuit and check fuses, pinouts at the Hevac etc. Usually the blowers don't give much trouble, not like the blend motors and in any event it's nigh on impossible that both blowers packed up at the same time. Have you tried switching the "Recirculation" mode on? Pity you can't get it hooked up to diagnostics as that will check sensors and enable manual driving & calibration of the various motors, including the blowers through their ranges.Which area are you based??

Managed to get RAVE downloaded, looks like there's a fair bit of info on there but it's a tad dark..... and cold now to be messing about outside lol

I'm in South Wales. If worst comes to worst there is a garage that will charge me £55 to read the codes. Christma coming up though and the credit crunch looming I'd rather keep it in my pocket if at all possible

Just a thought as I am coming over to the u.k. for Xmas with the folks and I would have bought the laptop & gear over if you were local (The Midlands). I will let anybody by me a drink at Xmas-and the rest of the year, come to think of it!!

Sounds like I need to take a short break in Southern Ireland lol.... Misses loves that part of the world

Right just gave it a good going over and all fuses and relay look fine. Is there a way to test the relays though. They look good and arn't burnt out but thats all I know.

When I switch from outside to recirc on the heater it sounds like simething is moving which I guess is a flap to direct the air but at no point do the blowers kick it.

I have seen in RAVE that one of them is just behind the glovebox so I am gonna whip this out and have a gander. How would I test it though, both whether current is getting there and if the blower actually works?? any ideas?? Can I just take power straight from the battery to one of the terminals??

Cheers

You can probably hear the flap motor(s) running. The relay can be checked with a multimeter when removed, but easier to remove it and swap it with another of the same colour. The motors are connected to the loom by plugs. Check the wiring colours feeding the blower, remove the plug and either check the voltage with a meter or test lamp (12V). You can then try putting 12V on the corresponding motor wires to see if it runs. You will get wire colours and motor plug locations from Rave-Electrical section.

Just a thought-take the cover off the fusebox in the engine bay and have a good sniff to see if there are hints of burning smells. They are a weak point on P38 electric system. Also pull the relays out to determine burning of the relay sockets.