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AndyC the WB

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Do we need big 4x4s in our town centres?
Are they really more polluting or dangerous?
Does our consumerist market justify their ownership?
ITV1 wants YOUR COMMENTS for a
new prime-time driving series.
.DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!.
If you really, really love them...
or
If you really, really hate them...
Contact us on: 0207 633 2838
or email: [email protected]

That text has been put about on a flyer from ITV for research for a
new program. I've spoken to the researcher behind this today and
she's keen present a balanced view despite the "anti" sentiment in the
header which was designed to attract attention.

Most of the response so far as been from the antis, so if anyone wants
to put their best foot forward, I suggest getting in touch.

Andy

--
Andy Cunningham -- www.cunningham.me.uk
Dr. Doom prays for death. Doom knows fully well that he will one day control
the universe and possess power even beyond his incomparable imagination.
Even so, Doom feels the only way to purge such intolerable filth as this
pie adventure from his fantastic mind is *death*. Sweet embracing death
where no such Aquaman advertisements can be found. Kill . . . Doom . . .
-- SeanBaby analyzes an old Hostess Fruit Pie advertisement
 
On 2006-09-07 16:38:38 +0100, AndyC the WB <[email protected]> said:

>
> Do we need big 4x4s in our town centres?
> Are they really more polluting or dangerous?
> Does our consumerist market justify their ownership?
> ITV1 wants YOUR COMMENTS for a
> new prime-time driving series.
> .DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!.
> If you really, really love them...
> or
> If you really, really hate them...
> Contact us on: 0207 633 2838
> or email: [email protected]
>
> That text has been put about on a flyer from ITV for research for a
> new program. I've spoken to the researcher behind this today and
> she's keen present a balanced view despite the "anti" sentiment in the
> header which was designed to attract attention.
>
> Most of the response so far as been from the antis, so if anyone wants
> to put their best foot forward, I suggest getting in touch.
>
> Andy

I have penned a response although I'll be surprised if this isn't yet
another one sided anti 4x4 piece.
--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums
G4 Discovery V8 - Australia Event Vehicle

 
Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
> On 2006-09-07 16:38:38 +0100, AndyC the WB <[email protected]> said:
>
>>
>> Do we need big 4x4s in our town centres?
>> Are they really more polluting or dangerous?
>> Does our consumerist market justify their ownership?
>> ITV1 wants YOUR COMMENTS for a
>> new prime-time driving series.
>> .DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!.
>> If you really, really love them...
>> or
>> If you really, really hate them...
>> Contact us on: 0207 633 2838
>> or email: [email protected]
>>
>> That text has been put about on a flyer from ITV for research for a
>> new program. I've spoken to the researcher behind this today and
>> she's keen present a balanced view despite the "anti" sentiment in the
>> header which was designed to attract attention.
>>
>> Most of the response so far as been from the antis, so if anyone wants
>> to put their best foot forward, I suggest getting in touch.
>>
>> Andy
>
> I have penned a response although I'll be surprised if this isn't yet
> another one sided anti 4x4 piece.

Me too! Any opportunity to put our case must be used!!
 
John Moppett wrote, On 07/09/2006 17:36:
> Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
>> On 2006-09-07 16:38:38 +0100, AndyC the WB <[email protected]> said:
>>
>>>
>>> Do we need big 4x4s in our town centres?
>>> Are they really more polluting or dangerous?
>>> Does our consumerist market justify their ownership?
>>> ITV1 wants YOUR COMMENTS for a
>>> new prime-time driving series.
>>> .DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!.
>>> If you really, really love them...
>>> or
>>> If you really, really hate them...
>>> Contact us on: 0207 633 2838
>>> or email: [email protected]
>>>
>>> That text has been put about on a flyer from ITV for research for a
>>> new program. I've spoken to the researcher behind this today and
>>> she's keen present a balanced view despite the "anti" sentiment in the
>>> header which was designed to attract attention.
>>>
>>> Most of the response so far as been from the antis, so if anyone wants
>>> to put their best foot forward, I suggest getting in touch.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> I have penned a response although I'll be surprised if this isn't yet
>> another one sided anti 4x4 piece.
>
> Me too! Any opportunity to put our case must be used!!

They won't read them out for you. What they want are opinionated/excited
people to join in a shouting match on TV. Sounds like a complete nightmare.
 
DavidM <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:

> They won't read them out for you. What they want are
> opinionated/excited people to join in a shouting match on TV. Sounds
> like a complete nightmare.

I envisage someone being picked who won't be particualrly articulate or come
over all that well deliberately. I'd just like to say before any one
suggests me, I'm busy that day.

;-)

Lee D


 
Lee_D wrote, On 07/09/2006 17:49:
> DavidM <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>
>> They won't read them out for you. What they want are
>> opinionated/excited people to join in a shouting match on TV. Sounds
>> like a complete nightmare.
>
> I envisage someone being picked who won't be particualrly articulate or come
> over all that well deliberately. I'd just like to say before any one
> suggests me, I'm busy that day.

I sent a snotty email to BBC Three Counties news room after they posted
some tripe about 4x4s tearing up footpaths. The response was very nice
and they invited me to join in a radio debate with some old lady from
the ramblers association. I turned down the invite and suggested they
contact GLASS.

There is sure to be an anti 4x4 spokes-person with a rehearsed list of
"facts" and horror stories. When they accuse you of giving their child
asthma and running over their cat there is little you can come back with.

I wonder if there are any figures on the number of cars using
bio-diesel. There are probably many times more Land Rovers than modern
family cars or city cars.
 
DavidM <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> There is sure to be an anti 4x4 spokes-person with a rehearsed list of
> "facts" and horror stories. When they accuse you of giving their child
> asthma and running over their cat there is little you can come back
> with.

Who told them about the cat?

;-)

They are ultimately at the mercy of the host.

Lee D


 
Lee_D wrote:

|| DavidM <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
|| about:
||| There is sure to be an anti 4x4 spokes-person with a rehearsed list
||| of "facts" and horror stories. When they accuse you of giving their
||| child asthma and running over their cat there is little you can
||| come back with.
||
|| Who told them about the cat?
||
|| ;-)
||
|| They are ultimately at the mercy of the host.
||
|| Lee D

I hit a cat in Sussex the other day. I was doing 60 at the time. I was in
the works Megane, though. Does that count?

--
Rich
==============================

Take out the obvious to email me.


 

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: DavidM <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
:
: > They won't read them out for you. What they want are
: > opinionated/excited people to join in a shouting match on TV. Sounds
: > like a complete nightmare.
:
: I envisage someone being picked who won't be particualrly articulate or
come
: over all that well deliberately. I'd just like to say before any one
: suggests me, I'm busy that day.
:
: ;-)
:
: Lee D

Well I got an email back from her saying she'd be in touch.

Watch this space...

Si


 
On 2006-09-07 20:36:12 +0100, "GrnOval"
<[email protected]> said:

> Well I got an email back from her saying she'd be in touch.
>
> Watch this space..

Ditto!

--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums

 
Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
> On 2006-09-07 20:36:12 +0100, "GrnOval"
> <[email protected]> said:
>
>> Well I got an email back from her saying she'd be in touch.
>>
>> Watch this space..
>
> Ditto!

Engage cynical mode - automated responses?
 

"Dougal" <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
: > On 2006-09-07 20:36:12 +0100, "GrnOval"
: > <[email protected]> said:
: >
: >> Well I got an email back from her saying she'd be in touch.
: >>
: >> Watch this space..
: >
: > Ditto!
:
: Engage cynical mode - automated responses?

I dont think so, as it changed from a generic mailbox to a person.

i'll give it 48 hours and then prod again if i havent heard anything

Si


 
GrnOval <[email protected]> uttered summat
worrerz funny about:

> I dont think so, as it changed from a generic mailbox to a person.
>
> i'll give it 48 hours and then prod again if i havent heard anything
>
> Si

Seen this on three Forums now so I guess she has a large in box.

:)

Lee D


 
On Thursday 07 September 2006 20:09, Richard Brookman
[[email protected]] wrote in message
<[email protected]>

> Lee_D wrote:
>
> || DavidM <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> || about:
> ||| There is sure to be an anti 4x4 spokes-person with a rehearsed list
> ||| of "facts" and horror stories. When they accuse you of giving their
> ||| child asthma and running over their cat there is little you can
> ||| come back with.
> ||
> || Who told them about the cat?
> ||
> || ;-)
> ||
> || They are ultimately at the mercy of the host.
> ||
> || Lee D
>
> I hit a cat in Sussex the other day. I was doing 60 at the time. I was
> in
> the works Megane, though. Does that count?

Was it a 4x4 Megane? I suspect it must have been. Only 4x4s are dangerous.
2WD vehicles use no fuel[1], they reduce congestion and pedestrians just
bounce off with a laugh and a friendly wave.

[1] in fact, they only turn up to filling stations to RETURN fuel which
nasty 4x4s then steal.
 
On Thursday 07 September 2006 17:41, DavidM [[email protected]]
wrote in message <[email protected]>

> John Moppett wrote, On 07/09/2006 17:36:
>> Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
>>> On 2006-09-07 16:38:38 +0100, AndyC the WB <[email protected]> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do we need big 4x4s in our town centres?
>>>> Are they really more polluting or dangerous?
>>>> Does our consumerist market justify their ownership?
>>>> ITV1 wants YOUR COMMENTS for a
>>>> new prime-time driving series.
>>>> .DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!.
>>>> If you really, really love them...
>>>> or
>>>> If you really, really hate them...
>>>> Contact us on: 0207 633 2838
>>>> or email: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> That text has been put about on a flyer from ITV for research for a
>>>> new program. I've spoken to the researcher behind this today and
>>>> she's keen present a balanced view despite the "anti" sentiment in the
>>>> header which was designed to attract attention.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the response so far as been from the antis, so if anyone wants
>>>> to put their best foot forward, I suggest getting in touch.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> I have penned a response although I'll be surprised if this isn't yet
>>> another one sided anti 4x4 piece.
>>
>> Me too! Any opportunity to put our case must be used!!
>
> They won't read them out for you. What they want are opinionated/excited
> people to join in a shouting match on TV. Sounds like a complete
> nightmare.

TV programmes made to depict violently opposing opinions rather than a
balanced, common-sense view? That's never happened before.
 
Hi Andy,

Suggest posting it to uk.rec.cars.4x4 as well.

Patrick


"AndyC the WB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Do we need big 4x4s in our town centres?
> Are they really more polluting or dangerous?
> Does our consumerist market justify their ownership?
> ITV1 wants YOUR COMMENTS for a
> new prime-time driving series.
> .DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!.
> If you really, really love them...
> or
> If you really, really hate them...
> Contact us on: 0207 633 2838
> or email: [email protected]
>
> That text has been put about on a flyer from ITV for research for a
> new program. I've spoken to the researcher behind this today and
> she's keen present a balanced view despite the "anti" sentiment in the
> header which was designed to attract attention.
>
> Most of the response so far as been from the antis, so if anyone wants
> to put their best foot forward, I suggest getting in touch.
>
> Andy
>
> --
> Andy Cunningham -- www.cunningham.me.uk
> Dr. Doom prays for death. Doom knows fully well that he will one day
control
> the universe and possess power even beyond his incomparable imagination.
> Even so, Doom feels the only way to purge such intolerable filth as this
> pie adventure from his fantastic mind is *death*. Sweet embracing death
> where no such Aquaman advertisements can be found. Kill . . . Doom . . .
> -- SeanBaby analyzes an old Hostess Fruit Pie advertisement


 
I received a phone call this morning from 'Catherine'. She did comment
that there had been a sudden surge in pro Land Rover emails. It was
inconvenient for me to talk at work, but she is ringing again this
afternoon.

Let's hope we are not strung out to dry for the entertainment of the
nation. =:-( )
Neil

 
DavidM wrote:
> John Moppett wrote, On 07/09/2006 17:36:
>> Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
>>> On 2006-09-07 16:38:38 +0100, AndyC the WB <[email protected]> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do we need big 4x4s in our town centres?
>>>> Are they really more polluting or dangerous?
>>>> Does our consumerist market justify their ownership?
>>>> ITV1 wants YOUR COMMENTS for a
>>>> new prime-time driving series.
>>>> .DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!.
>>>> If you really, really love them...
>>>> or
>>>> If you really, really hate them...
>>>> Contact us on: 0207 633 2838
>>>> or email: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> That text has been put about on a flyer from ITV for research for a
>>>> new program. I've spoken to the researcher behind this today and
>>>> she's keen present a balanced view despite the "anti" sentiment in the
>>>> header which was designed to attract attention.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the response so far as been from the antis, so if anyone wants
>>>> to put their best foot forward, I suggest getting in touch.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> I have penned a response although I'll be surprised if this isn't yet
>>> another one sided anti 4x4 piece.
>>
>> Me too! Any opportunity to put our case must be used!!
>
> They won't read them out for you. What they want are opinionated/excited
> people to join in a shouting match on TV. Sounds like a complete nightmare.

I sent tham a suitably opinionated, but polite and logical, reply, and
have asked if I want to contribute.
 
>>>>> "Dougal" == Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> writes:

Dougal> Engage cynical mode - automated responses?

I can vouch for the fact that the research in question is a real
person, and is interested in getting a balanced view of the story.

I'm optimistic, given the number of responses they'll have received
from here and several other forums, there will be a few intelligent,
articulate individuals who have 4x4s for a reason to get on there and
make a point or two.

Andy

--
Andy Cunningham -- www.cunningham.me.uk
An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a
cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
-- H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
 
"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Lee_D wrote:
>
>
> I hit a cat in Sussex the other day. I was doing 60 at the time. I was
in
> the works Megane, though.

Part of the cat is now also in the works Megane. The remainder ricocheted
nicely and is no longer in Sussex.

Steve


 
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