P38A 3 wheels on my wagon...!

tomcat59alan said:

You were lucky mate, having been the recipient of a runaway lorry wheel on the M6 in 1994 I can vouch for the devastating impact, in more than one way,it has on one's life.

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I'm just chuffed no-one outside the car was injured Alan.

RangeRoller dt said:

Have you got a locking stud on each wheel, perhaps someone had been midnight loosening?

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No...and No.

gold rover said:

Wow. Glad your safe though.
Depending how far you've driven, in meantime, manager might say, you should have checked them. I think some places say it's as little as 25 miles after changing. If you say you checked them, and they were tight, then he's off hook. If you didn't check them, he's off hook.

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I said I was going to be doing 5-600 miles the next day with a 16' trailer to move 2tonnes of marine engines. No mention of checking anything. They did it as a "favour" and said chip in a couple of quid. I gave them a fiver which I thought was a good deal for me.

kermit_rr said:

I can't believe that!! If it's not the tyre fitters responsibility to properly tighten the wheel nuts then they shouldn't be charging you and asking you to tighten them instead

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They did me a "favour" only asking for a couple of quick and I gave them a fiver.

So there was no real contract between you and the people doing the work?

Shimsteriom said:

So there was no real contract between you and the people doing the work?

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Im not taking any legalistic approach about this, but will speak with the manager, because there is a clear training issue here.

myfirstl322 said:

Criminal!

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I'd say it's a training issue. No malice either at their end, or mine.

Shimsteriom said:

Have you been driving it much between having the tyres rotated and the wheel making a bid for freedom?

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Define "much/too much"! Longest drive I ever did in one day was 985 miles. When I realised how close I was to driving 1000 miles in a day, I thought about driving 8 miles down the road andback to clock up 1001 miles. Glad I didn't, because I woke up a couple of hours later still on my drive with engine running!!!

DanClarke said:

That is truly shocking. Although I had a friend with a Volvo V70 who had the same experience while travelling on the Motorway shortly after a garage tyre replacement.
I would be inclined to have a quiet word and then if they are unreceptive a very loud word and a chat with trading standards and health & safety, because someone isn't doing their job properly, and there is a lack of checks & balances.

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They didn't charge me, but I gave them a fiver when asked for just a couple of quid that likely went into the charity box. I'm NOT kicking off in any way, but I'll just have a quiet word with the manager as there is clearly a training issue on several levels, Dan.

Shimsteriom said:

So there was no real contract between you and the people doing the work?

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When they did the job, they entered into a contract I believe, but see my other response to your same post.

Jon Dor said:

They didn't charge me, but I gave them a fiver when asked for just a couple of quid that likely went into the charity box. I'm NOT kicking off in any way, but I'll just have a quiet word with the manager as there is clearly a training issue on several levels, Dan.

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I have to say I admire your forbearance, it could have gone all so horribly wrong for you, all because someone wasn't paying attention.
But, as long as you are happy and they accept the "heads-up" then all is well with the world.

DanClarke said:

I have to say I admire your forbearance, it could have gone all so horribly wrong for you, all because someone wasn't paying attention.
But, as long as you are happy and they accept the "heads-up" then all is well with the world.

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Yup! I'm just a genuine, nice guy. A quiet word is all that's needed. Even if they'd done the job at retail price and invoiced me, I'd still take the same approach. If he doesn't accept that there's a training element required, I'll change my tone. I've no intention of saying which National Company they are, but I think they should replace the missing three nuts and the one I retrieved exhibiting stripped thread internally...

Just got back from a chat with the manager of the garage that didn't tighten up my nuts correctly. Manager was mortified and they are, honourably in my opinion, going to replace the four missing wheel nuts and try to realign the slightly distorted wing and black trim. I'm a happy bunny with their response; in my book, you measure the ethics of an organisation by the way they deal with a problem, whatever the nature of the problem may be.

A good result
Similar to my garage after the brake disc fell off on the A9 on my 130 Landy

oakey said:

A good result
Similar to my garage after the brake disc fell off on the A9 on my 130 Landy

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I'm guessing that there are likely to be many such potentially lethal incidents our fellow forumites could relate. I've had all sorts of suggestions of "suing them", etc. But it's being dealt with to my satisfaction, so "end of" methinks. I trust there were no injuries in your incident Oakey?

I had a set of nexen rodian tyres fitted to my P38 and drove it around for a few hundred miles, of course there was the shake and thud thud of loose wheel nuts, luckily in my case, pulled over and managed to catch them as they were on their last few threads,

cranked them up and took it home..

loosened them off and re-torqued them to 80lb'ft low and behold 4 days later, loose wheel nuts!!

odd i thought..

so i cranked them up with my breaker bar, and they've been fine since..

Henry_b said:

I had a set of nexen rodian tyres fitted to my P38 and drove it around for a few hundred miles, of course there was the shake and thud thud of loose wheel nuts, luckily in my case, pulled over and managed to catch them as they were on their last few threads,

cranked them up and took it home..

loosened them off and re-torqued them to 80lb'ft low and behold 4 days later, loose wheel nuts!!

odd i thought..

so i cranked them up with my breaker bar, and they've been fine since..

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It's ok if the threads aren't croaked ....

kermit_rr said:

Never experienced a garage under tightening wheel nuts

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Neither had I until this incident...

Henry_b said:

I had a set of nexen rodian tyres fitted to my P38 and drove it around for a few hundred miles, of course there was the shake and thud thud of loose wheel nuts, luckily in my case, pulled over and managed to catch them as they were on their last few threads,

cranked them up and took it home..

loosened them off and re-torqued them to 80lb'ft low and behold 4 days later, loose wheel nuts!!

odd i thought..

so i cranked them up with my breaker bar, and they've been fine since..

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They should be 80 but mine are more like 100+ (One stamp on the OE wheel brace once it’s lowered)

kermit_rr said:

I can't believe that!! If it's not the tyre fitters responsibility to properly tighten the wheel nuts then they shouldn't be charging you and asking you to tighten them instead

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As @Ratae says, there's usually a bit on the receipt, telling you to check them after 'x' miles. I have no idea of the science behind it, but it was one of the first things I was taught when taught to drive. @wammers @Saint.V8 @holidaychicken , any idea of the science?
I always check immediately after they do them. Then when I get home , and again after my first run out. It's not paranoia when they are out to get you