2011 vogue se 4.4 tdv8 can bus problems

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Right gentlemen
I think I may have had a bit of luck, after stripping practically everything out of the rear of the car and having no joy with connections etc, I then removed glovebox to check connections to the junction box which, again all seemed clean and dry, I then went under the seats and started checking, under the n/s seat just seems to be a tv module or poss telephone module, either way no can bus wires to it, then under drivers seat I found the seat control module (climate seats) with plenty of can wires to it.
I disconnected this and tried again, now the only codes I am getting back are the speaker codes, which have been pretty much hard from the start.
I have road tested, although only five or so miles and still no communication or med speed can bus codes.
Obviously the climate seats no longer work but everything else seems to have healed up!
The question is could this module, either shorting or open circuit, cause this sort of catastrophic failure ? also, why would I get no climate seat codes when disconnected.
Thoughts please
You have now discovered why interconnecting non essential things into a common bus with critical items is not a good idea. If the climate seats are not there, I expect they cannot give codes, all you might get is a missing system message. On the other hand the system might just be set up to work with or without climate seats as they are probably just an option.
Certainly, and faulty module on a common bus can stop the whole system functioning.
 
Good find :)

in short with CAN it can do everything or nothing:eek: 1 bad and all bad sort of thing.

what does the module and connections look like?

J
 
Well I haven’t had the module out as yet, but it does not seem to have suffered any water ingress issues, tbh I had had a gut full by then, but the terminals look minty fresh.
I am not getting my hopes up just yet as I have had my hopes dashed before after doing a jolly jig!
I want to give it an extended road test before I get excited, but it looks pretty promising.
It will wait until Monday now.
I understand what’s said about being set up for either or and they are definitely an option so that would make sense re. The lack of codes.
Interesting, as they say everyday is a school day!
I will post an update Monday, let’s hope we have some closure, the worst thing ever is someone fixing a fault you have been following and not letting people that tried to help know the answer!!!
Thanks for your help so far gents
Sean
 
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