200tdi, hot or not!?

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On an more confusing note, I drove around 170 mile last night from London to Huntingdon (yes in a total whiteout style blizzard) and the temp gauage was holding steady at 3 quarters. So at least it didn’t overheat!
 
MontyChops said:
Thanks for the part number SteveSw, one more basic question...how do I identify if I have a 200tdi defender or disco engine under the bonnet???
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Correct me if I’m wrong someone,
But basing it on the fact my friend has a defender 200tdi transplant, the first think you’ll notice compared with the disco 200tdi, is the defender engines turbo is mounted up high, whereas the disco down low nearer the exhaust manifold. This is the visual I’ve always taken to identify.
But I’m sure someone will now tell me there’s a kit to mount to turbo as is in a defender 200, totally blasting my concept out the window haha
 
Go on where the turbo is.

Up high = defender 200tdi

Down low = disco 200tdi

I have a disco block (defender and disco block are identical) but it has all the defender gubbins bolted to it so it’s defender spec but the engine number would indicate disco - which it now isnt
 
James Carr said:
Correct me if I’m wrong someone,
But basing it on the fact my friend has a defender 200tdi transplant, the first think you’ll notice compared with the disco 200tdi, is the defender engines turbo is mounted up high, whereas the disco down low nearer the exhaust manifold. This is the visual I’ve always taken to identify.
But I’m sure someone will now tell me there’s a kit to mount to turbo as is in a defender 200, totally blasting my concept out the window haha
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Good point! The turbo on my disco conversion is pretty cramped up against the inner wing. I suspect the wastegate actuator doesn't really have enough clearance but i haven't got around to doing anything about it yet
 
flat said:
Go on where the turbo is.

Up high = defender 200tdi

Down low = disco 200tdi

I have a disco block (defender and disco block are identical) but it has all the defender gubbins bolted to it so it’s defender spec but the engine number would indicate disco - which it now isnt
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That’s exactly my theory!

SteveSw said:
Good point! The turbo on my disco conversion is pretty cramped up against the inner wing. I suspect the wastegate actuator doesn't really have enough clearance but i haven't got around to doing anything about it yet
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Part of my three month mini restoration consisted of a steven Parker kit, rotating my turbo housing and moving the actuator to solve exactly this issue.
The previous owner of mine had actually cut a square out of the inner wing the route the turbo pipework so it wasn’t restricting airflow with any harsh bends, it worked but I wasn’t too keen on my turbo being exposed to the elements of a open wheel arch!
Although the steven parked kit didn’t totally fix my problem, a few alternative pipes later and plenty of arch clearance and nice free flowing air with no harsh restricting bends.

SteveSw said:
Just to add a bit more confusion, the 19J diesel turbo also has the turbo up high
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Dont make this difficult lool
 
James Carr said:
So... I have a 90, originally a td but converted to a disco 200tdi (not my doing)
Background -
I’ve just replaced the water pump and stat (yes I checked it first) I’ve flushed the whole coolant system and as far as I know, a standard rad is fitted (with a manually operated electric fan)

My question - how do I know if I have the right sender and/or temp garage?

There’s lots of threads on the matter but none that explain how you KNOW what is actually fitted.

My issue is, in this super cold weather, my temp gauage in slow moving traffic, at faster speeds, or when giving it some wellie (if that’s even possible in a landy) seems to sit between half and 3 quarters almost into the red. Although, I’ve never had it ‘overheat’ and never any steam or funny smells.
I’m just worried that if it was to genuinely overheat, I may not ever know until it’s too late! As my gauge doesn’t give any sort of reading that makes much sense!

Thanks for reading and drop a comment If you may be able to shed some light on the matter for me

James
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I wouldn't worry too much for the moment. So long as the gauge moves, you will know if there is a genuine overheat. Tdi are not prone to overheating anyway, except in the event of thermostat failure.

In the longer term, it is easy to fit the right sender and adaptor. And if I was you, I would get rid of the electric fans, and refit viscous fan and cowl, they work better.
 
Turboman said:
I wouldn't worry too much for the moment. So long as the gauge moves, you will know if there is a genuine overheat. Tdi are not prone to overheating anyway, except in the event of thermostat failure.

In the longer term, it is easy to fit the right sender and adaptor. And if I was you, I would get rid of the electric fans, and refit viscous fan and cowl, they work better.
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Thanks for your reply!
Your actually the first person to give the advice of refitting the vicious unit and to be fair, I’m always forgetting to turn the van off Olin entering deeper water (not quite wading depths) whilst greenlaning, don’t really want my van turning into a jet ski engine.
So probably not a bad shout!
Maybe at the next landy show il keep an eye out for a vicious unit and fan
 
James Carr said:
Thanks for your reply!
Your actually the first person to give the advice of refitting the vicious unit and to be fair, I’m always forgetting to turn the van off Olin entering deeper water (not quite wading depths) whilst greenlaning, don’t really want my van turning into a jet ski engine.
So probably not a bad shout!
Maybe at the next landy show il keep an eye out for a vicious unit and fan
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I ran twin Kenlowes for a few years on my 90, they were a pain, so I removed them, and got a viscous unit and cowl mail order from a breaker. They were about £50 including postage.
Worked for 5 years, no issues at all. The twin Kenlowes are still in a fert sack under my bench.

The designer used viscous fan and cowl for good reasons.
 
Turboman said:
I ran twin Kenlowes for a few years on my 90, they were a pain, so I removed them, and got a viscous unit and cowl mail order from a breaker. They were about £50 including postage.
Worked for 5 years, no issues at all. The twin Kenlowes are still in a fert sack under my bench.

The designer used viscous fan and cowl for good reasons.
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To be fair, it is just another electrical item to go wrong I guess.
Can designer and Land Rover he used in the same sentance? Lol
 
James Carr said:
To be fair, it is just another electrical item to go wrong I guess.
Can designer and Land Rover he used in the same sentance? Lol
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Landrovers were all designed by a team of qualified motor engineers, and usually work well if kept the way the designer intended, and serviced as he instructed.

Most of the problems I have seen in my 35 years of working on them were caused by owners who thought they knew better, and either bolted on non-standard items, or did not keep up with servicing and maintenance.

There are a very few exceptions.
A Tdi, 2.5petrol, or a V8 is an improvement on a 19j, if you want more power, and not worried about originality.
Axle lockers are a big improvement over standard in greasy conditions, and should have been fitted as standard.
And in many places, slightly more aggressive tyres may prove useful, although myself I would never fit larger tyres unless I intended to drive in competitions, and was going to upgrade a lot of other stuff as well.
 
Turboman said:
Landrovers were all designed by a team of qualified motor engineers, and usually work well if kept the way the designer intended, and serviced as he instructed.

Most of the problems I have seen in my 35 years of working on them were caused by owners who thought they knew better, and either bolted on non-standard items, or did not keep up with servicing and maintenance.

There are a very few exceptions.
A Tdi, 2.5petrol, or a V8 is an improvement on a 19j, if you want more power, and not worried about originality.
Axle lockers are a big improvement over standard in greasy conditions, and should have been fitted as standard.
And in many places, slightly more aggressive tyres may prove useful, although myself I would never fit larger tyres unless I intended to drive in competitions, and was going to upgrade a lot of other stuff as well.
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Apologies mate, I was referring more to the word designer in a school run Mum, harrods and guicci handbag kinda way!

There’s no doubt about it, a well mainted Land Rover is a force not to be reckoned with!

Axle lockers are on a very long “to buy” list, but new suspension, bushes, fixings and mounts, good quality wheel bearing kits and a new timing belt kit is much higher up on that list!
Oh and a new Versace belt ;)
 
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