2000 P38 4.6 HSE

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Mercedeschris

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I have just purchased another RR I will probably spend a fortune on lol. Bought it as a non runner. The key was faulty so I’ve now got it running. But yesterday it lost all drive no noise or anything. When I select drive I hear a slight change in the transmission noise. Then when I try to engage park there is a slight grinding noise as though something is partially engaged. Strange thing is though the car can be moved when in park? The only thing I’ve done since it was drove ok is I engaged low range to drive up some ramps to waxoil the underside. Anyone any ideas all information greatly appreciated. Cars done 99k 2000 4.6 HSE
 
Sounds like the transfer box hasn't gone back to high and is in neutral, They do stick if not used.

Try functioning it a few times to see if it will shift back into low or high and give you drive.

J
 
Sounds like the transfer box hasn't gone back to high and is in neutral, They do stick if not used.

Try functioning it a few times to see if it will shift back into low or high and give you drive.

J
Many thanks it makes sense as the cars been stood for some time. I’m going to take a look later
 
Sounds like the transfer box hasn't gone back to high and is in neutral, They do stick if not used.

Try functioning it a few times to see if it will shift back into low or high and give you drive.


Success I probed Pin 7 &8 on the ratio change motor and although it tried to work it sounded horrendous. I removed it stripped it down and found the magnet bonded to the motor casing had broken off. So I turned the spindle it connects to manually and problem solved. Just need to pick a new motor up now. Thanks for info as always
 

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Sounds like the transfer box hasn't gone back to high and is in neutral, They do stick if not used.

Try functioning it a few times to see if it will shift back into low or high and give you drive.


Success I probed Pin 7 &8 on the ratio change motor and although it tried to work it sounded horrendous. I removed it stripped it down and found the magnet bonded to the motor casing had broken off. So I turned the spindle it connects to manually and problem solved. Just need to pick a new motor up now. Thanks for info as always
 
Sounds like the transfer box hasn't gone back to high and is in neutral, They do stick if not used.

Try functioning it a few times to see if it will shift back into low or high and give you drive.


Success I probed Pin 7 &8 on the ratio change motor and although it tried to work it sounded horrendous. I removed it stripped it down and found the magnet bonded to the motor casing had broken off. So I turned the spindle it connects to manually and problem solved. Just need to pick a new motor up now. Thanks for info as always
 
“Quote @Mercedeschris “Success I probed Pin 7 &8 on the ratio change motor and although it tried to work it sounded horrendous. I removed it stripped it down and found the magnet bonded to the motor casing had broken off. So I turned the spindle it connects to manually and problem solved. Just need to pick a new motor up now. Thanks for info as always”

At least you know what it was. It’s 1 of them use it or lose it things:).

J.
 
“Quote @Mercedeschris “Success I probed Pin 7 &8 on the ratio change motor and although it tried to work it sounded horrendous. I removed it stripped it down and found the magnet bonded to the motor casing had broken off. So I turned the spindle it connects to manually and problem solved. Just need to pick a new motor up now. Thanks for info as always”

At least you know what it was. It’s 1 of them use it or lose it things:).

J.
Mmmm the conundrum now is buy a second hand replacement at £35-£140 or buy new at circa £450
 
Mmmm the conundrum now is buy a second hand replacement at £35-£140 or buy new at circa £450

Never had to dig into the motor, as it seems to be the mechanical side that’s the issue, due to lack of use.
I would go secondhand personally and make sure the shaft turns free before fitting.

I probably function mine about 2 or 3 times a year and never had a problem.

J
 
Never had to dig into the motor, as it seems to be the mechanical side that’s the issue, due to lack of use.
I would go secondhand personally and make sure the shaft turns free before fitting.

I probably function mine about 2 or 3 times a year and never had a problem.

J
Yeah
Second hand I guess. I’ll get one for £45 and make a good unit out of the two if necessary. I must admit compared to a 1995 LSE I’ve got the difference in quality between vehicles is like day and night. You can tell the superior BMW DNA In the build quality. I was a technician at BMW from 1988 to 1995 and the technology is very consistent with E38 7 series cars. Unfortunately the cars been converted to coil springs and the EAS has been removed. So that’s my next task to refit EAS…….I must be mad lol
 
Yeah
Second hand I guess. I’ll get one for £45 and make a good unit out of the two if necessary. I must admit compared to a 1995 LSE I’ve got the difference in quality between vehicles is like day and night. You can tell the superior BMW DNA In the build quality. I was a technician at BMW from 1988 to 1995 and the technology is very consistent with E38 7 series cars. Unfortunately the cars been converted to coil springs and the EAS has been removed. So that’s my next task to refit EAS…….I must be mad lol
The brand new BMW I had was total crap:rolleyes:
 
Never had to dig into the motor, as it seems to be the mechanical side that’s the issue, due to lack of use.
I would go secondhand personally and make sure the shaft turns free before fitting.

I probably function mine about 2 or 3 times a year and never had a problem.

J
Am I right in thinking this transfer motor system works on only 5 volts?? As I’ve probed my old unit with 12 volts. It worked a couple of times the went dead. I can probe with of the yellow of orange wire and nothing? They seem think wires to be only running on 5 volts unless I’ve interpreted the ETM wrongly?
Also what’s with these annoying adverts on here now. Make the site also unusable

thanks in advance
 
Am I right in thinking this transfer motor system works on only 5 volts?? As I’ve probed my old unit with 12 volts. It worked a couple of times the went dead. I can probe with of the yellow of orange wire and nothing? They seem think wires to be only running on 5 volts unless I’ve interpreted the ETM wrongly?
Also what’s with these annoying adverts on here now. Make the site also unusable

thanks in advance
I doubt the motor runs on 5 volts, the feed back circuit probably does, I will have to look at RAVE when I fire up the office computer.
Use a web browser like Opera with an ad blocker.
 
I doubt the motor runs on 5 volts, the feed back circuit probably does, I will have to look at RAVE when I fire up the office computer.
Use a web browser like Opera with an ad blocker.
Many thanks as always Datatek
I’ve probed terminals 7 and 8 at C0683 orange and yellow on motor and RS/RP at C1319. The motor worked both ways by swapping probe over then it stopped? So I read some of the WSM vol 2 which implies the system is run on 5V signals from transfer box ECU. So I was thinking that I’d fried the motor?? But as you said I can’t see and pretty substantial motor running off 5V?? I got a replacement motor granted it’s used but it’s done exactly the same thing?? Weird.com
Thanks again
 
Many thanks as always Datatek
I’ve probed terminals 7 and 8 at C0683 orange and yellow on motor and RS/RP at C1319. The motor worked both ways by swapping probe over then it stopped? So I read some of the WSM vol 2 which implies the system is run on 5V signals from transfer box ECU. So I was thinking that I’d fried the motor?? But as you said I can’t see and pretty substantial motor running off 5V?? I got a replacement motor granted it’s used but it’s done exactly the same thing?? Weird.com
Thanks again
RAVE gives no indication of the motor supply voltage. The motor is driven by transistors, I would bet it's 12 volts but I don't know for sure, I have never had to check.
 
RAVE gives no indication of the motor supply voltage. The motor is driven by transistors, I would bet it's 12 volts but I don't know for sure, I have never had to check.
I also looked at the WSM vol 2. This is where in the system function section it mentions this 5V control voltage from transfer box ECU. To control the hi/low positioning motor. Any way I’ll fit the replacement and see what happens. many thanks again. I see you’re into P38 EAS?? Mines been converted to springs. . I maybe picking your brains over next few weeks as I may try to restore the EAS system. I managed to fixed my classic RR EAS I really like it when it’s working properly.
 
I also looked at the WSM vol 2. This is where in the system function section it mentions this 5V control voltage from transfer box ECU. To control the hi/low positioning motor. Any way I’ll fit the replacement and see what happens. many thanks again. I see you’re into P38 EAS?? Mines been converted to springs. . I maybe picking your brains over next few weeks as I may try to restore the EAS system. I managed to fixed my classic RR EAS I really like it when it’s working properly.
The control circuit is certainly 5 volts.
Yes, I like the EAS, but then I used to design and manufacture micro controllers for air powered equipment so I'm lucky to have some knowledge of the stuff.
 
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