200 TDi timing belts

bill_gj · Sep 2, 2008

First post on Landyzone and I'll apologise if anyone thinks that this post should be somewhere else but......are there two different timing / cam belts for the 200TDi engine?

I've seen pictures of the cam belt replacement on the web of what is supposed to be a 200TDi engine and it has no idler pulley, just a tensioner.

When I pulled my son's Disco 1 timing cover off - there's the tensioner, plus an idler pulley and the belt was tight, even with the tensioner bolt undone.

Any clues?

Trewey · Sep 2, 2008

sure it aint a 300?

thebiglad · Sep 2, 2008

bill_gj said:
First post on Landyzone and I'll apologise if anyone thinks that this post should be somewhere else but......are there two different timing / cam belts for the 200TDi engine?

I've seen pictures of the cam belt replacement on the web of what is supposed to be a 200TDi engine and it has no idler pulley, just a tensioner.

When I pulled my son's Disco 1 timing cover off - there's the tensioner, plus an idler pulley and the belt was tight, even with the tensioner bolt undone.

Any clues?

Hi there, I found only one kit for the Tdi200.

Here's a link to a Disco Tdi200 timing belt kit:

Timing Belt Kit - Disco 200TDI

Cheers
Dave

bill_gj · Sep 2, 2008

Many thanks for the quick replies chaps.

So that 200TDi kit contains:

Part No. TIMINGKIT200

Kit consists of:

1x ETC8550 Dayco Timing Belt
1x ERR2530 Tensioner
1x ETC8560 Idler
1x ERR1195 Front Cover gasket
1x ERR388 Water Pump Gasket

So what are the pics I've seen that don't have an idler - the timing cover is, to all intents, the same, just without idler.

When I took the belt off it was as tight as a bowstring with the tensioner backed right off - didn't seem right to me.

I'll try to find the pics and put a link in, here's (hopefully) one picture of what is described as a 200TDi, but it doesn't have an idler pulley:

bill_gj · Sep 2, 2008

Treworgy 90 - how do I tell the difference between the 200 and 300 engines.

Be gentle.

Trewey · Sep 2, 2008

200 has separate auxiliary belts for altenator / fan and PAS pump (and Aircon if fitted).
300 has a single "serpentine" belt.

What year is yer Disco?

bill_gj · Sep 2, 2008

Right - this engine has two belts - 200TDi then?

I took a few photo's so someone can just check that it is a 200:

bustersbus · Sep 2, 2008

Ain't that a 300tdi?

Trewey · Sep 2, 2008

bustersbus said:
Ain't that a 300tdi?

thas wot I fort buster, but ee says ee's got 2 auxiliary belts, not a serpentine.
and it's a disco, so bit different t a deepender 200.

need a disco eggspurt's opinion ah fink.

bustersbus · Sep 2, 2008

Treworgey 90 said:
thas wot I fort buster, but ee says ee's got 2 auxiliary belts, not a serpentine.
and it's a disco, so bit different t a deepender 200.

need a disco eggspurt's opinion ah fink.

just had a look in a magazine and it looks like it could be the 200tdi after all trewy

Adz · Sep 2, 2008

Look at the pulley on the alternator... it's a very narrow V, more like a notch. If it was a 300 it'd be about an inch wide as the serpentine belt is a multi V not a single like the 200.

HTH,

bill_gj · Sep 2, 2008

Perplexing, isn't it?

I think I am going to have to take myself to my local LR dealer (!!) and see how the belt that came off compares to whatever they think is right and also a 300 belt.

I can't be exact on the year of this motor - it's my son's vehicle and it's on one of those Irish (?) plates with three letters and four numbers. I think it's a 1991 model.

Adz - yes, the two belts that came off the ancillary drives were just ordinary alternator-type belts, not one of the flat poly-vee types.

Trewey · Sep 2, 2008

well, if it's 1991, and the original engine, it's a 200.
300's came in 1993.

Oddie · Sep 2, 2008

funny innit how the best engine was the one they kept putting in the depender for the least ever amount of time!

bill_gj · Sep 2, 2008

Original engine - well that's another mystery. My lad bought it from a friend-of-a-friend and I gather that this was a 'replacement' engine.

Do 200s and 300s have obviously different types of fuel injectors? can I tell the difference by the style of injector?

Adz · Sep 2, 2008

200 Tdi timing belt and tensioner above...

300 Tdi timing belt (not quite such a good picture) below...

Yours is definitely a 200 judging by the pictures you posted earlier...

Trewey · Sep 2, 2008

you sure?
look at the rh pic in post #7 - there's an idler to the right of the 2 big pulleys, which the 200 doesn't have, and it looks like your 300 pic.

Adz · Sep 2, 2008

My bad... I was looking at post 4... which is a 200

Odd that isn't it?

OK - gearbox... on the gear knob where is the reverse gear? If it's 'push left and forwards' (i.e. to the left of and in the same plane as 1st) it's an LT77 which would suggest either a 200 Tdi or a 300 Tdi 'home upgrade) but if it's 'push right and pull back' (i.e. to the right of and in the same plane as 4th) it's an R380 and almost certainly a 300 Tdi.

Would someone have gone to all the bother of replacing the 200 with a 300 and then converting the crank, alternator and water pump pulleys back to the 200 Tdi ? Certainly looking that way innit?

Have you got the engine number off the block yet? Good chance that will tell us more.

bustersbus · Sep 2, 2008

Does this help ye....

Land Rover Discovery - Parts Spares Accessories - Rimmer Bros

Trewey · Sep 2, 2008

hmmm
not at all sure, but I vaguely remember reading somewhere that a few early 300s had multiple V belts and not the serpentine that most of them have.

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