110 CSW springs - again!!!

jaswa · Feb 25, 2012

I know this has been thrashed out at great length but i'm getting confused!

I've just changed my 300tdi 110 ex-utilities van body with heavy duty chassis (special veichles) for a 200tdi Station Wagon.

The PTO driven Superwich that was on my 300tdi i'm moving across to the 200tdi which i'm pretty sure means (due to the weight/bumper etc) that i need to fit stronger springs at the front.

Also (its a 10 seater with a roof rack), when i've had it fully laden with lads from the caving club - with gear on the roof etc, i've been hitting the rear bump stops at times on rough sections of road i think.

Not tested it properly but i'm pretty sure the self-leveler thing isn't working which i don't really want to replace.

So i'm thinking i need a set of 4 springs.

I'd be happy enough for a bit of lift but don't want to be changing bushes, radius arms, shocks, propshafts etc. (i tow a sankey trailer which could do with being slightly higher at the landy end (I have the nato hitch as high as i can at present - back door just skims it).

Basicly my question is, what springs to i want to be ordering?????

I like the idea of progressive springs to retain comfort as much as possible... would a set of the newer TD5 springs suit the job?

I THINK that the perfect situation would be:

1) springs that give maximum lift on standard setup - 25mm???
2) heavier duty all round
3) Progressive??
4) Remove old self leveller.

What off the shelf units does anyone recon i need to do that?

ratty · Feb 25, 2012

jaswa said:
I know this has been thrashed out at great length but i'm getting confused!

I've just changed my 300tdi 110 ex-utilities van body with heavy duty chassis (special veichles) for a 200tdi Station Wagon.

The PTO driven Superwich that was on my 300tdi i'm moving across to the 200tdi which i'm pretty sure means (due to the weight/bumper etc) that i need to fit stronger springs at the front.

Also (its a 10 seater with a roof rack), when i've had it fully laden with lads from the caving club - with gear on the roof etc, i've been hitting the rear bump stops at times on rough sections of road i think.

Not tested it properly but i'm pretty sure the self-leveler thing isn't working which i don't really want to replace.

So i'm thinking i need a set of 4 springs.

I'd be happy enough for a bit of lift but don't want to be changing bushes, radius arms, shocks, propshafts etc. (i tow a sankey trailer which could do with being slightly higher at the landy end (I have the nato hitch as high as i can at present - back door just skims it).

Basicly my question is, what springs to i want to be ordering?????

I like the idea of progressive springs to retain comfort as much as possible... would a set of the newer TD5 springs suit the job?

I THINK that the perfect situation would be:

1) springs that give maximum lift on standard setup - 25mm???
2) heavier duty all round
3) Progressive??
4) Remove old self leveller.

What off the shelf units does anyone recon i need to do that?

I would recommend keeping the original rear springs and fitting a second set of 'helper' springs inside the originals. It keeps the ride soft while stopping bottoming out and rolling on bends.

jaswa · Feb 25, 2012

right - thats a good call - i had double coils (with the 130? helper springs on my heavy duty chassis 110 van body).

Why is this a better way then changing the whole spring though? does it give a better ride? - bearing in mind i need to change the springs on the front for the winch/bumper anyway, and bearing in mind that fitting the helper springs on the rear seems as much work as changing the main springs anyway?? on my van body with double springs it felt pretty harsh when empty - although road holding (roll) did seem less - which would be obvious i suppose.

Also, i read something about longer and shorter springs on left and right side or something - seems strange to me - anyone know anything about that????

Pommy Pekkie · Feb 26, 2012

Howdy

I got these for my TD5:

Keith Gott Land Rovers - Worldwide Specialists in Land Rover Products

They should fit. As they are for the TD5, they are not handed, so the vehicle will sit fairly level. Ride is firm, but not excessively so.

Don't think you'll find much better for the price.

Tom

jaswa said:
right - thats a good call - i had double coils (with the 130? helper springs on my heavy duty chassis 110 van body).

Why is this a better way then changing the whole spring though? does it give a better ride? - bearing in mind i need to change the springs on the front for the winch/bumper anyway, and bearing in mind that fitting the helper springs on the rear seems as much work as changing the main springs anyway?? on my van body with double springs it felt pretty harsh when empty - although road holding (roll) did seem less - which would be obvious i suppose.

Also, i read something about longer and shorter springs on left and right side or something - seems strange to me - anyone know anything about that????

ratty · Feb 26, 2012

jaswa said:
right - thats a good call - i had double coils (with the 130? helper springs on my heavy duty chassis 110 van body).

Why is this a better way then changing the whole spring though? does it give a better ride? - bearing in mind i need to change the springs on the front for the winch/bumper anyway, and bearing in mind that fitting the helper springs on the rear seems as much work as changing the main springs anyway?? on my van body with double springs it felt pretty harsh when empty - although road holding (roll) did seem less - which would be obvious i suppose.

Also, i read something about longer and shorter springs on left and right side or something - seems strange to me - anyone know anything about that????

I'm on my 3rd 110. The first was a v8 county station wagon with a self leveler and standard CSW springs. The second was a van body which had standard springs until I fitted HD rear springs and a self leveler and the third is a utility station wagon which had no anti-roll bars, no self leveler and standard rear springs.

The ride on my first 110 was good but articulation was hindered by the anti-roll bars and the self leveler. The ride after fitting the HD rear springs to my second 110 was way to harsh even when fully loaded (it too had anti-roll bars and a self leveler).

I wanted the rear of my current one firmed up but yet still soft so I decided to try the helper springs rather than change the worn standard springs. It's proven to be the right choice for me. I still get the articulation and soft ride but with the reduced roll and improved load carrying ability.

My front springs are already uprated due to my landy being an ex electricity board varient which came from LR special vehicles with a superwinch. I dunno what they actuall are but they don't seem too harsh.

jaswa · Feb 26, 2012

ratty - its all making sense.....

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