101 Ambi body-gap & Celotex

Right, got the kin roof panel out - after a lot of trying to remove
screws etc - decided on 'ripping the b*s*a*d out - it does rip well.

I'm now going for gold in the 'Itching for England' having also ripped
out the fibreglass insulation and filled my cheeliebin with it...

Now, someone has commended Celotex as a replacement - and I'm sure
they mentioned 40mm - however looking at the cavaty size, it looks
like 50mm would be better. Anyone who's done this please point me in
the right direction!

The aircon will fit as if it were designed for the 101 (well, it is a
Kerstner Cool Jet - Model 101, so who knows...)


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Mother" <"@ {mother} @ <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> uttered summat
worrerz funny about:
> Right, got the kin roof panel out - after a lot of trying to remove
> screws etc - decided on 'ripping the b*s*a*d out - it does rip well.
>
> I'm now going for gold in the 'Itching for England' having also ripped
> out the fibreglass insulation and filled my cheeliebin with it...
>
> Now, someone has commended Celotex as a replacement - and I'm sure
> they mentioned 40mm - however looking at the cavaty size, it looks
> like 50mm would be better. Anyone who's done this please point me in
> the right direction!
>
> The aircon will fit as if it were designed for the 101 (well, it is a
> Kerstner Cool Jet - Model 101, so who knows...)

B & Q do some insulation too, no doubt similar to celotex. Lass at work is
lining her Canal Barge with it to keep the cold out warmth in and vice
versa.

Also Hardboard is avail at B & Q for the new roof ;-) Do it in three or more
like mine and it's much simpler to access for that odd wire here and there
after the event. Oh or theres the velcro and padding option....h'mmmm nice!

Which ever you go for thicker has to be better!

Lee D

Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:

> Which ever you go for thicker has to be better!
>
> Lee D

Oh should add... when you refit if you don't go the velcro route, perhaphs
wise in the cab! I slid the new sheets backwards in to the gap above the
bulkhead support... then slide them forwards on to the lip above the
windscreen, then sideways into the lip at the side... then you only have the
edge along the roof reenforcement to secure, smae for the other side and
finslly fit the centre bit though I expect if you fit it like mine the cente
bit may infact be two bits with a aircon unit in the middle.

Just make sure that the old formica is completely gone from around the edges
especially where the screws hold it fast. I bit of cunning with a chisel
will soon address this but mind that second skin.

Lee D

Mother wrote:

> Now, someone has commended Celotex as a replacement - and I'm sure
> they mentioned 40mm - however looking at the cavaty size, it looks
> like 50mm would be better. Anyone who's done this please point me in
> the right direction!

Worrabout this instead ?
http://www.spray-insulation.co.uk/product range.htm

Steve

On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 19:56:53 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
>funny about:
>
>> Which ever you go for thicker has to be better!
>>
>> Lee D
>
>Oh should add... when you refit if you don't go the velcro route, perhaphs
>wise in the cab! I slid the new sheets backwards in to the gap above the
>bulkhead support... then slide them forwards on to the lip above the
>windscreen, then sideways into the lip at the side... then you only have the
>edge along the roof reenforcement to secure, smae for the other side and
>finslly fit the centre bit though I expect if you fit it like mine the cente
>bit may infact be two bits with a aircon unit in the middle.
>
>Just make sure that the old formica is completely gone from around the edges
>especially where the screws hold it fast. I bit of cunning with a chisel
>will soon address this but mind that second skin.

I did my cab roof as 2 sections with a join pretty much in the middle
(where the strut is).
Front one slid in forwards, rear one backwards, then push up and screw
in centre..

I dont fancy taking the front one out ever again (it was a fight to
get in past the air boxes), but the back one is easy enough if i want
to run an cables above it.

the join has a bit of B&Q ally trim with screws through it, and i
refitted screws along the front edge. I will probably drill a few in
along the back edge too, though its pretty wlel wedged so probably
doesnt need them.

Some kind of trim along the sides will probably make it look tidier.
If you have a tiny drill you could redrill it and screw upwards. I
didnt so chose to screw into the wall and support it.
I used plastic trunking (which will hold wires later and doesnt cost
me anything!), but some nice ally angle would probably look better

piccy here:

http://www.zen68482.zen.co.uk/101/cab/P1010011 _Small.JPG

On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 22:37:37 +0100, steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mother wrote:
>
>> Now, someone has commended Celotex as a replacement - and I'm sure
>> they mentioned 40mm - however looking at the cavaty size, it looks
>> like 50mm would be better. Anyone who's done this please point me in
>> the right direction!
>
>Worrabout this instead ?
>http://www.spray-insulation.co.uk/product range.htm

About as much use as a chocolate teapot to me.

Having now stripped the inside of Grumble nearly three times, and
having decided upon different wiring configurations each time, I'd be
totally ****ed if I'd used spray insulation. I'm also going to be
putting in a few LCD monitors, TVs and a couple of flush keyboards.
Behind the main panels will also go some LED lights, a few switches
and odd otherages - all not possible with a spray type replacement for
the fibreglass.

I'm happy to go with Celotex. I'd be even happier to hear from anyone
who has used it and can verify the size for the cavaty. I'm going to
go for the slightly oversized (as I measure it, by 2mm) 50mm Celotex
and see how it goes.



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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 22:54:42 +0100, Tom Woods
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>piccy here:
>
>http://www.zen68482.zen.co.uk/101/cab/P1010011 _Small.JPG

Ooh. mine _used_ to look that clean and tidy... ;-)


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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 19:49:30 +0100, Mother wrote:

> Now, someone has commended Celotex as a replacement...

That type of rigid foam is the best insulator but note rigid. It'll flex
a bit but 40 or 50mm boards are quite stiff. Expanded polystrene may have
more flex in that thickness than Kingspan/Celotex and is still a good
insulator. I suspect the expanded poly sold as insulation is the fire
retarded version...

There is a web site where you can get "seconds" Celotex/Kingspan for
considerably less than your local builders merchant.

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