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==EDIT: This bit is now understood, and I can confirm I'm a numpty, please skip down to the tapping noise part, thanks.. ==
Ok, this is likely to be a numpty question. I'm a bit jet lagged and can't quite work out if this is normal, or an issue. Please note I'm relatively new to mechanics, I've had my Landy for 3 years, and its the first vehicle I've tried to do most things myself on. I really am learning as I go, but I'm learning a lot, and doing quite well!
I was doing a few jobs on the landy on Saturday, including trying to hunt down a tapping noise (more on that later) and doing some yearly oil changes underneath.
I don't have a level driveway, so I often (as in this case) I face the landy (90) down hill, put it in reverse, chock the back wheels, and jack the front axel up on stands to level it out when doing things like oil changes, etc.
While it was up, and because I'm trying to find the source of a new noise, I checked out the front wheels, and discovered that my front passenger side has a small amount of play in it. I'll need to take the wheel off to see if this is bearing, or CV or similar related. But I needed to going out green laning, so I just had to leave it as an unknown for now.
But, while I was doing that, I gave the wheel a spin too. And this is where my understanding was off I think. The wheel span fully, there was a slight knock but then it continued to spin freely. I was absolutely expecting it to get stuck due to it being engaged in reverse, but it didn't matter which way I span the wheel, it would continue to spin.
Looking underneath, I could see that the wheel on the opposite side was moving in the opposite direction. So at the very least, that part was working as expected! But maybe I'm completely wrong here, I was expecting the wheel to turn the diff, the diff to turn the front prop and the front prop to get stuck against the reverse gear? Instead, that knock is a "slight" engaging of the front prop, I see it turn for a moment, and then the front diff "slips" on it, leaving the prop stationary and the wheels spinning freely.
Please tell me I'm going mad, and that this is totally expected and normal? Or have I got something broken somewhere in the front diff?!
==EDIT: the rest is the TAPPING NOISE, which I still need thoughts on please... ==
Right, while I've got you all here though, let's talk about my new noise. I first noticed it about 2 weeks ago. it was a gentle tapping/pulsing after shifting into 3rd from 4th at high revs, I.e. slowing down a bit for a fast corner, dropping down a gear into 3rd, and as I lift the clutch, the tapping is there in amongst the sound of the high revs (once clutch fully released), until the landy has slowed down into a more normal rev range for that gear... then it's gone.
It wouldn't do it from 3rd to 2nd, or 2nd to 1st, nor was it present in low range gears.
Part of me was like "I bet that's some wear on the 3rd gear, it may always have been there, but I'm only noticing it now as I'm eliminating so many other noises recently and everything is running so nice and smooth"
Fast forward to yesterday, and I was out for a full day's green laning. About half way through the day, the tapping was starting to get a bit louder, under the same situation. Landy paranoia starts to kick in - "whatever it is, is getting worse! Is this something to do with what I noticed on my front wheels yesterday??".
But it wasn't long until I was certain it was getting worse. It started to do it from 3rd to 2nd too! and then to my horror, I noticed it was present throughout nearly all of the 3rd gear rev range - always tapping in 3rd (subtle, but noticeable). Then the final symptom kicked in... I could start to hear it in low-range gears too, mainly in 3rd again, a little in the higher end of 2nd.
By the time I'd driven it around for 5 hours, and then another hour to get home, the tapping was very very noticeable in 3rd gear.
So, does anyone want to guess at what it might be? Do we think the play in the front passenger side wheel is related? Or is this something even worse, in the depths of my gear or transfer box?
EDIT: here's a recording of the sound:
Thoughts please.
Ok, this is likely to be a numpty question. I'm a bit jet lagged and can't quite work out if this is normal, or an issue. Please note I'm relatively new to mechanics, I've had my Landy for 3 years, and its the first vehicle I've tried to do most things myself on. I really am learning as I go, but I'm learning a lot, and doing quite well!
I was doing a few jobs on the landy on Saturday, including trying to hunt down a tapping noise (more on that later) and doing some yearly oil changes underneath.
I don't have a level driveway, so I often (as in this case) I face the landy (90) down hill, put it in reverse, chock the back wheels, and jack the front axel up on stands to level it out when doing things like oil changes, etc.
While it was up, and because I'm trying to find the source of a new noise, I checked out the front wheels, and discovered that my front passenger side has a small amount of play in it. I'll need to take the wheel off to see if this is bearing, or CV or similar related. But I needed to going out green laning, so I just had to leave it as an unknown for now.
But, while I was doing that, I gave the wheel a spin too. And this is where my understanding was off I think. The wheel span fully, there was a slight knock but then it continued to spin freely. I was absolutely expecting it to get stuck due to it being engaged in reverse, but it didn't matter which way I span the wheel, it would continue to spin.
Looking underneath, I could see that the wheel on the opposite side was moving in the opposite direction. So at the very least, that part was working as expected! But maybe I'm completely wrong here, I was expecting the wheel to turn the diff, the diff to turn the front prop and the front prop to get stuck against the reverse gear? Instead, that knock is a "slight" engaging of the front prop, I see it turn for a moment, and then the front diff "slips" on it, leaving the prop stationary and the wheels spinning freely.
Please tell me I'm going mad, and that this is totally expected and normal? Or have I got something broken somewhere in the front diff?!
==EDIT: the rest is the TAPPING NOISE, which I still need thoughts on please... ==
Right, while I've got you all here though, let's talk about my new noise. I first noticed it about 2 weeks ago. it was a gentle tapping/pulsing after shifting into 3rd from 4th at high revs, I.e. slowing down a bit for a fast corner, dropping down a gear into 3rd, and as I lift the clutch, the tapping is there in amongst the sound of the high revs (once clutch fully released), until the landy has slowed down into a more normal rev range for that gear... then it's gone.
It wouldn't do it from 3rd to 2nd, or 2nd to 1st, nor was it present in low range gears.
Part of me was like "I bet that's some wear on the 3rd gear, it may always have been there, but I'm only noticing it now as I'm eliminating so many other noises recently and everything is running so nice and smooth"
Fast forward to yesterday, and I was out for a full day's green laning. About half way through the day, the tapping was starting to get a bit louder, under the same situation. Landy paranoia starts to kick in - "whatever it is, is getting worse! Is this something to do with what I noticed on my front wheels yesterday??".
But it wasn't long until I was certain it was getting worse. It started to do it from 3rd to 2nd too! and then to my horror, I noticed it was present throughout nearly all of the 3rd gear rev range - always tapping in 3rd (subtle, but noticeable). Then the final symptom kicked in... I could start to hear it in low-range gears too, mainly in 3rd again, a little in the higher end of 2nd.
By the time I'd driven it around for 5 hours, and then another hour to get home, the tapping was very very noticeable in 3rd gear.
So, does anyone want to guess at what it might be? Do we think the play in the front passenger side wheel is related? Or is this something even worse, in the depths of my gear or transfer box?
EDIT: here's a recording of the sound:
Thoughts please.
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