UK return for an Afirrcan Overland truck

[cmr600]

Hi all,

Thinking of returning to the UK after a decade in Africa - wondering whether to bring my (originally UK) 2012 Defender 110 back with me - the challenge is that it's not quite as it was when it left - ICARUS roof / 2 seats / Nimbus Oleo Pneumatic suspension / full overland conversion etc - it has a LOT of mods - and I'm seeing horror stories of insurance mayhem... Who can I contact to give me ideas on how much this would cost me per year ?? Ideally, without having to phone at £11 a minute from here as well

Thoughts?

Thank you in advance

Chris

(The other contender to come back is the 1984 soft top Defender 90 with a 4L V8 that I shared the build on here back in the day - But it's a bit colder in Yorkshire than Nairobi ;-)

 

[ER1C]

IMHO Your best bet will be to use an average UK address and get quotes, suspect the likes of Adrian Flux, Heritage etc would be good starters. The 84 wouldn't be too bad I dont think and is now 40 year heritage but I can see you paying for the 2012 a fair bit..... BUT not as much as a new one by far. I dont think most mods matter tbh as long as its not a ridiculous safety risk.

 

[scott3933]

Yeah as above the 90 should be easier and cheaper to insure, assuming it's not overly modified (within reason for a 40+ year old vehicle)... My 1988 110 costs just under £300 on a classic policy Half the price of my Audi!

 

[cmr600]

at least I'm old now ;-)

 

[scott3933]

at least I'm old now ;-)

That definitely works in your favour! I'm 31, 9 years no claims and its only just getting to the point where insurance prices are coming right down

 

[cmr600]

IMHO Your best bet will be to use an average UK address and get quotes, suspect the likes of Adrian Flux, Heritage etc would be good starters. The 84 wouldn't be too bad I dont think and is now 40 year heritage but I can see you paying for the 2012 a fair bit..... BUT not as much as a new one by far. I dont think most mods matter tbh as long as its not a ridiculous safety risk.

a few wouldn't quote online, hence checking - I think it's the list of add-ons - so need a conversation, I guess....

 

[cmr600]

That definitely works in your favour! I'm 31, 9 years no claims and its only just getting to the point where insurance prices are coming right down

I can't even remember being 31 it's that long ago....

 

[marjon]

How long have they lived there? Both RHD?

I would bring them both back cos they probably have very little rot and you will want another if you come home without them.

I don’t think the extras should give to many problems.
Do it online to check cheaper than phone, many also have online chat.

Worse comes to worse if they are both RHD rot free you could do well on a sale price.

J

 

[scott3933]

a few wouldn't quote online, hence checking - I think it's the list of add-ons - so need a conversation, I guess....

If you can figure out a cheap way of calling, some of the brokers may be able to help providing you have a UK address to give them and give them the exact model of the vehicle and specific modifications. Some people seem to dislike them but I'd definitely give Adrian flux a try! I went through them this year, and have used them before on other cars

 

[cmr600]

How long have they lived there? Both RHD?

I would bring them both back cos they probably have very little rot and you will want another if you come home without them.

I don’t think the extras should give to many problems.
Do it online to check cheaper than phone, many also have online chat.

Worse comes to worse if they are both RHD rot free you could do well on a sale price.

J

Both RHD - one is a UK car (the 110), the other is a bit more Kenyan (made up of a few bits)

 

[cmr600]

Both RHD - one is a UK car (the 110), the other is a bit more Kenyan (made up of a few bits)

I have to work out how much they'd be worth here vs home I guess (plus around $4k per car to ship to UK)

 

[cmr600]

If you can figure out a cheap way of calling, some of the brokers may be able to help providing you have a UK address to give them and give them the exact model of the vehicle and specific modifications. Some people seem to dislike them but I'd definitely give Adrian flux a try! I went through them this year, and have used them before on other cars

Ironically they're the only one willing to email me to chat through rather than pay £11 a minute to call - thanks

 

[Phill]

I'd stay in Africa. Seriously.

 

[cmr600]

I'd stay in Africa. Seriously.

I hear that a lot - but ageing parents is one thing, and the other is that life here isn't all safaris and sunsets; there is a lot that doesn't get published in the news, which is very, very tough. Everywhere seems a bit broken at the moment, so I think it's more important to spend time with family, friends and loved ones wherever in the world you are

 

[Def90man]

I hear that a lot - but ageing parents is one thing, and the other is that life here isn't all safaris and sunsets; there is a lot that doesn't get published in the news, which is very, very tough. Everywhere seems a bit broken at the moment, so I think it's more important to spend time with family, friends and loved ones wherever in the world you are

I lived just outside nairobi in the late ‘70’s and it was reasonably safe then apart from the driving. But what I’ve heard about it over the last few decades, I wouldn’t go back

 

[Freddie17]

I have to work out how much they'd be worth here vs home I guess (plus around $4k per car to ship to UK)

Put them both in a shipping container…

 

[cmr600]

Put them both in a shipping container…

$4k each - already priced up - 20ft of possessions = $8000, add on 20ft to make it a 40 footer - $11500, I guess one more would be a little more.... or don't bother with the home possessions and just ship the 2 Landies? I'm sure the missus would go for that....

PLUS 120kg of dogs that seem to want flights and not a 3-month shipping adventure....

 

[meego]

Sell them there and be done with it. What you make, and save, you can buy one here. Don’t let your heart rule your head.

 

[marjon]

$4k each - already priced up - 20ft of possessions = $8000, add on 20ft to make it a 40 footer - $11500, I guess one more would be a little more.... or don't bother with the home possessions and just ship the 2 Landies? I'm sure the missus would go for that....

PLUS 120kg of dogs that seem to want flights and not a 3-month shipping adventure....

Drive them have an adventure .

But then at $1/mile I guess it would be cheaper to ship than pay the fuel/ferries/hotels costs. but then the dogs flight tickets could offset the savings.

I am just trying to manmath my way to say. If you have 2 rust free RHD landies and 1 being a V8 you will probably want 1 in the UK when you do get there. So why not hang on to what you have?

J

 

[Freddie17]

$4k each - already priced up - 20ft of possessions = $8000, add on 20ft to make it a 40 footer - $11500, I guess one more would be a little more.... or don't bother with the home possessions and just ship the 2 Landies? I'm sure the missus would go for that....

PLUS 120kg of dogs that seem to want flights and not a 3-month shipping adventure....

That seems bloody expensive. I’d be doing 1 x 40’ container - fill it with 2 cars and your other junk stuff (use the space in the cars also), and ship from/to ports that prove the most cost-effective.

I was recently talking to some guys doing a Himalayan rally and they are shipping over some F1s from the UK for around £2,500 / container, IIRC. Might pay you to ask about a bit.

Or flog them over there like @meego says, - but if the market is not as stupid strong as the UK, you might be losing £££ in selling there and then struggle to replace your (known quality) with something here.