200Tdi

[Anaconda]

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[steve2286w]

I got a kit like this, the 9.5mm? dia goes in injection pump, while the other bit screws in btm flywheel cover screws in slot in flywheel stop it turning

 

[miktdish]

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142607741269

 

[Anaconda]

I got a kit like this, the 9.5mm? dia goes in up pump, while the other bit screws in btm flywheel cover screws in slot in flywheel stop it turning View attachment 340803

my link includes crank puller tool which doubles up for using to take the pump out without removing the belt.

 

[Anaconda]

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142607741269

Funny how I did both Ebay links the same and they came out different.
Thanks for letting me know, whether I remember or not is a different matter.

 

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Thanks Borrowed that kit from a Mate. Got another bloody problem now though, Some of the nuts on timing case have rounded off, Tried everything to loose them off, left them with penetrating oil over night, Heat, and even those Irwin bolt extractors, but they are to small to get a grip on as they are only 10mil bolts, made one worse after loosing my temper so god knows how Im going to get that one out. Any Ideas ?
Also got engine out today, Do I need the fly wheel and casing off to fit to Engine Stand or will it go on as it is ?
Thanks Everyone for help and advice.

 

[lynall]

I would grind the bolt heads off, remove the timing cover, strip that down and then remove the timing chest which could be fun! then you have full access to remains of the bolts, the worst three are normally the ones around the water gallery (top right in first pic), all the timing cover bolts are M8, the bolt heads are weird 10mm is to loose and 3/8 is to tight.
Better to remove flywheel housing to fit onto engine stand.

I wonder what that blanking bung in the flywheel housing is for in the 3rd picture?

 

[border]

I would grind the bolt heads off, remove the timing cover, strip that down and then remove the timing chest which could be fun! then you have full access to remains of the bolts, the worst three are normally the ones around the water gallery (top right in first pic), all the timing cover bolts are M8, the bolt heads are weird 10mm is to loose and 3/8 is to tight.
Better to remove flywheel housing to fit onto engine stand.

I wonder what that blanking bung in the flywheel housing is for in the 3rd picture?

Yes I was wondering about that bung too.

 

[steve2286w]

CharlesY knew his engines and how to loosen bolts, That plug is similar position to the 2286 but without the inspection cover , do you have one at btm as the 200tdi should, wonder if it’s a hybrid or off another engine, see if it lines up when engine at TDC a or EP with slot in flywheel
There is codes on the block and head which tell you the casting date
What does btm flywheel housing loook like has it had the mod recommended by glencoyne drilling extra bolt holes
For fixing to stand I got long 10mm bolts from screwfix and extra nuts into block

 

[Anaconda]

Yes I was wondering about that bung too.

Some of them have them for timing, I think they line up with the "wrong" slot in the flywheel. Ours doesn't have it, maybe the earlier engines have it?
Pretty sure it's on one of TrailerFitters 200tdi videos.

 

[lynall]

Been thinking about them bolts.
Maybe hammer a m10 or m12 nut over the bolt head, then weld nut to bolt head, gives you more meat to play with.

 

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CharlesY knew his engines and how to loosen bolts, That plug is similar position to the 2286 but without the inspection cover , do you have one at btm as the 200tdi should, wonder if it’s a hybrid or off another engine, see if it lines up when engine at TDC a or EP with slot in flywheel
There is codes on the block and head which tell you the casting date
What does btm flywheel housing loook like has it had the mod recommended by glencoyne drilling extra bolt holes
For fixing to stand I got long 10mm bolts from screwfix and extra nuts into block View attachment 340871View attachment 340872

The bolts are only m10 I think and dont think they go in to the housing very far, got flywheel and housing off ready to try but a Bit worried if 4 bolts will hold it on stand, I know its been done before as have seen pics of them on. Do you have any pics of which holes you used when yo done it Mate ?
Thanks

 

[steve2286w]

you should use the top 2 and the bottom 2 holes , my stand is a clarke and you can see the adjusting brackets and the long 10mm bolts with additional locknuts, it can revolve 360 degrees and lock in position just under the rubber gloves with a pin this is on my 2286 engine but very similar block , i think i got the stand after doing the tdi engine

 

[WoodyO]

I'd probably grind the heads off those bolts to get the cover off, then tackle the stud that's left in the casing.

Edit, too slow on that reply.

Yes, I've currently got a 200tdi almost fully build up, turbo, manifolds, etc. on a Clarke 350kg engine stand using the four bolt holes mentioned above.

 

[border]

you should use the top 2 and the bottom 2 holes , my stand is a clarke and you can see the adjusting brackets and the long 10mm bolts with additional locknuts, it can revolve 360 degrees and lock in position just under the rubber gloves with a pin this is on my 2286 engine but very similar block , i think i got the stand after doing the tdi engineView attachment 340940

Thanks my stand looks exactly like yours, I measured how far the studs go in to engine and the top is 2 about 35mm and bottoms about 30mm, the tubes on stand are 70mm so think I will need bolts about 120mm or longer. pic of mine so is it 4 bolts circled ? just found pic of my stand too.

 

[steve2286w]

I used 100mm long bolts, yes use the circled holes, don’t need to go full depth, I used additional nuts on the bolt to nip them up and saved cutting bolts

High Tensile Set Screw

High tensile zinc plated steel. Use when a full threaded bolt is required.

www.toolstation.com

 

[border]

I used 100mm long bolts, yes use the circled holes, don’t need to go full depth

High Tensile Set Screw

High tensile zinc plated steel. Use when a full threaded bolt is required.

www.toolstation.com

Thanks Again Mate will order some

 

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Thanks Everyone, Got it on tonight, its at a bit of an angle, in first pic, not sure why, but it does turn right round with a bit of effort. Not sure what to do first either give tops of pistons and block a good clean or take sump off and see whats what in the bottom end, sump bolts look very rusted so have wire brushed them and soaked them in penetrating fluid, frightened to touch the bloody things in case they start rounding off like others.
The 2 on timing cover circled in last pic will not budge tried tapping smaller socket on but no joy
Some have mentioned grinding them off then having a go at the studs but not sure if there will be enough of them sticking out to get a grip on them. think before I do that might try and cut a slit in them to see if a big screwdriver might move them but not building my hopes up, these bloody things are Stuck Solid. at last I have better access to them now with it been on the stand.
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[steve2286w]

Land Rover Manuals

smithies.co.nz

Also the 200tdi article on turner engineering

The discovery 1 manual very helpful and Britannia does good videos , he has loads so have a search
Sump:bolts should not be tight, sometimes a 1/4 “ drive rattle gun helps with small tight bolts
The crank is a biggie and it’s bearings so a clean area needed to clean ,label and bag things up for later
Once you get a bare block then can paint up rebore as required then build from there , if you don’t have the kit to measure bores local engineering co should do it quite cheaply
Enjoy