Found Alibros' post. Some images now missing
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/freelander-project-iv-bertie.303953/page-4#post-3801142
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/freelander-project-iv-bertie.303953/page-4#post-3801142
Jeepers, there's a lot of rust in those pics.
It looks as though the car spent a load of time in the sea to be honest! The first owner lived up in Yorkshire, so I guess a lot of winter salt exposure despite low miles when I bought it....Jeepers, there's a lot of rust in those pics.
Interesting that they still used Wabco sensors with the Teves Mk20 ABS.
That might well be the explanation - are the later ones have the teeth machined/cast into the drive shaft flange? Any type where the ring is added is going to be prone to the same issues I fear, but I get the impression that face lift FL1s are more reliable in this respect. Or is it that they're just younger?Good work Rob. This issue with reluctor rings is probably why LR moved to the ring in bearing design of the later FL1.
are the later ones have the teeth machined/cast into the drive shaft flange?
You can just make out the individual magnetic poles in this picture.Ah yes! I'd read that before, but completely forgot! LOL I guess the magnets are inserted into the drive shaft flange?
I'm pretty sure they don't work with the sensors on the older cars - so you'd have to swap the whole ABS system - which presumably is tied into the CAN systems - so not without a whole heap of work. You'd probably end up taking the whole looms and ECUs of a 2002+ car!That's very helpful, thanks! I hadn't realised it was incorporated into the bearing itself? Very neat - and would that make it feasible to retro-fit? Not that I am planning to do this, but really a curiosity question
It's the way most cars after about 2003 were done. It solved the ABS rings problem completely, and is probably cheaper to do too.That's very helpful, thanks! I hadn't realised it was incorporated into the bearing itself? Very neat
A lot of work, due to the more thorough CAN integration of the later cars. It would be easy to get a later car IMHO. I've got 2004 1.8 for sale if you're interested.and would that make it feasible to retro-fit? Not that I am planning to do this, but really a curiosity question
It's possible, but not practical to do.I'm pretty sure they don't work with the sensors on the older cars - so you'd have to swap the whole ABS system - which presumably is tied into the CAN systems - so not without a whole heap of work. You'd probably end up taking the whole looms and ECUs of a 2002+ car!
It's a posher model than mine, but I'd get shot if I bought yet another car! There's a couple of cars on the fleet that now need to be sold off (and that's a wrench, because they've all been superb)A lot of work, due to the more thorough CAN integration of the later cars. It would be easy to get a later car IMHO. I've got 2004 1.8 for sale if you're interested.
Its not just the number of pulses - the pulses themselves are different. I think the Wabco and Teves Mk20 use AC currents while the Mk25 uses DC currents.I'm sure that's right! I guess it depends on how many pulses per rotation of wheel you'd get - the ECU may not be bothered about what sensor is used, so long as it can "understand" the signals it receives Like I say, I've no interest in doing this, just curious!
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