Please please can someone help....

[dinkydave]

Hi everyone my name is Dave..hope all are doingwell..as you can guess and see I'm new to all this so please bare with me.
Thank you in advance..
Here's my issue..just picked up a 2003 vogue 3.0 tdv6 se.. beautiful machine very very tidy for year inside and out. To cut this short I was driving home after buying it (privately)and as I put my foot down a fault came up on the dash " fuel injector system" and then a lot of power was lost it didn't stopbutjust wouldn't go any faster than 70mph so next services I stopped for about10mins for a wee..got back in and started straight away and drove perfectly for about 5miles then warning came back and yep so did the power loss..so a journey that should of been an hr took just over 2hrs when on the motorway I didn't hear anything bad only radio and road noise but when coming off I put the window down and turned the radio off because I felt it judder as I was slowing down (wasn't breaking) so I listened then and the engine was making a awful noise pulling away at junctions and just going along..phoned the guy I brought it off and he said that I should get it reset and it will be fine and he would pay..my concern is, is the engine buggered or is it the lack of power making the noise ?
Thank you in advance
Dave

 

[Colthebrummie]

First thing to do is get the codes read by a proper diagnostic tool and then take it from there, come back here and tell us what the codes are.

Col

 

[Mark Piercy]

No, take it back !! It's not a bloody laptop!!
Sorry buddy, if you have 'just' bought it and it's doing that straight away...take it back to him and tell him to get it reset after he hands over your money.
Welcome by the way...

 

[Iancorky]

^^^^^^^^ this

Did you not test drive it before committing?

 

[brianp38dse]

If the seller said get it reset and it will be fine, that says he knows there is a problem he was not telling you about, take it straight back I could be an expensive fix,just clearing codes is not a fix.

 

[Mark Piercy]

Any news buddy?

 

[Marmaduke]

@dinkydave I wish I could find someone like you to palm some crap off onto. Take it back as fast as possible and get your money back then buy another if you wish but learn a lesson. The seller obviously knows about its issues. Range rovers can be a money pit at the best of times without paying to sort issues on one an hour old

 

[Saint.V8]

From the Which.co.uk website:

Second-hand car bought privately
You have fewer rights when you buy a used car from a private seller, and key parts of the Consumer Rights Act don't apply. For example, there is no legal requirement for a car to be of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose.

But contractual rules about misrepresentation do apply. So, legally, the seller must:

• accurately describe the second-hand car. For example, an ad must not say 'one owner' when the car has had several
• not misrepresent the second-hand car, ie tell you something about it which isn't true. For example, if it’s been in an accident, the owner mustn't tell you it hasn't.

If you're buying from a private seller, the onus is on you as the buyer to ask all the right questions before making the purchase. The seller doesn't have to volunteer extra information so, if you don't ask questions, you may not have the full picture of the car's history or be aware of any potential faults.

So a sticky wicket - although his does say clear the fault and it'll go away - so he knows there was a fault - but as above he doesn't have to tell you......this is ethically and morally a bit of an ar$e.

I would be thinking injector loom fault as this is quite common, or a dodgy injector....getting it pugged in and faults read is a must.!

 

[Marmaduke]

From the Which.co.uk website:

Second-hand car bought privately
You have fewer rights when you buy a used car from a private seller, and key parts of the Consumer Rights Act don't apply. For example, there is no legal requirement for a car to be of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose.

But contractual rules about misrepresentation do apply. So, legally, the seller must:

• accurately describe the second-hand car. For example, an ad must not say 'one owner' when the car has had several
• not misrepresent the second-hand car, ie tell you something about it which isn't true. For example, if it’s been in an accident, the owner mustn't tell you it hasn't.

If you're buying from a private seller, the onus is on you as the buyer to ask all the right questions before making the purchase. The seller doesn't have to volunteer extra information so, if you don't ask questions, you may not have the full picture of the car's history or be aware of any potential faults.

So a sticky wicket - although his does say clear the fault and it'll go away - so he knows there was a fault - but as above he doesn't have to tell you......this is ethically and morally a bit of an ar$e.

I would be thinking injector loom fault as this is quite common, or a dodgy injector....getting it pugged in and faults read is a must.!

Driving it back to his house is a must, would you seriously be throwing money at it when it's less than a day old?

 

[Saint.V8]

Driving it back to his house is a must, would you seriously be throwing money at it when it's less than a day old?

Oh definitely not - it is a bit of a dodgy vehicle - God knows what else could be wrong with the poor thing!

What I am alluding too is that even if he does take it back, he cannot demand or expect a refund - only if the vendor is a stand up chap can one be expected!

 

[gold rover]

Sadly he's unlikely to be a stand up chap, as he sold with known fault and didn't disclose.
Personally my first response would take it back. If hes honest, he'll give you your money back. If you've been duped by someone not honest you'll be taking it home and coming back on here. If the former then great, if the latter, at least the help on here will ease the pain. Might even be worth watching my thread about fuel issues started on Saturday, as I have just had the fuel injection system issue and the Golden Girl is with my local, trusted, indy, as we speak, waiting on the guys being able to fit her in.
Good luck in either case.


P.s For when you get it fixed or get another one: You're not legally allowed to "go any faster than 70mph".
Also it's a TD6 not tdV6

 

[gold rover]

Any news buddy?

It would appear we helpful sorts are not worth keeping in the loop. The OP prefers to go 'fighting ' in AG. Although it would appear there have been further developments.

I filled her up before I set off there was no issue until I put my foot down . But this morning no message I'm just worried about the noise ? I'm taken it to my mechanic later today and go from there if too bad he's having it back I've already told him this and he didn't put up a fight. Thank you for your reply

 

[tomcat59alan]

It would appear we helpful sorts are not worth keeping in the loop. The OP prefers to go 'fighting ' in AG. Although it would appear there have been further developments.

Is this a good time to tell him the gearbox is made from cheese.

 

[gold rover]

Is this a good time to tell him the gearbox is made from cheese.

That did make me laugh

 

[dinkydave]

From the Which.co.uk website:

Second-hand car bought privately
You have fewer rights when you buy a used car from a private seller, and key parts of the Consumer Rights Act don't apply. For example, there is no legal requirement for a car to be of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose.

But contractual rules about misrepresentation do apply. So, legally, the seller must:

• accurately describe the second-hand car. For example, an ad must not say 'one owner' when the car has had several
• not misrepresent the second-hand car, ie tell you something about it which isn't true. For example, if it’s been in an accident, the owner mustn't tell you it hasn't.

If you're buying from a private seller, the onus is on you as the buyer to ask all the right questions before making the purchase. The seller doesn't have to volunteer extra information so, if you don't ask questions, you may not have the full picture of the car's history or be aware of any potential faults.

So a sticky wicket - although his does say clear the fault and it'll go away - so he knows there was a fault - but as above he doesn't have to tell you......this is ethically and morally a bit of an ar$e.

I would be thinking injector loom fault as this is quite common, or a dodgy injector....getting it pugged in and faults read is a must.!

Thank you so much for your honesty and your very helpful advice. I've been busy working and haven't had much time to do alot but my mechanic has it now and I will know in a short time what is going on I've also kept the former keeper in the loop who also has been very helpful. Yes I do like a good fight id stand my ground on most things to get my point across or someone else's but in this instance I really can't be bothered with bickering. I've never used this forum before and that's why it got posted on the first forum because that looked like the most active but anyway that's not the issue the issue was and is my RR and people on here have been very helpful and for that I'm really grateful. The guy I brought it off is willing to help in anyway he can and has said and I quote " Dave if your not happy and want to bring it back and want your money back then that's how it has to be"

If this sounds rude or personal etc I do apologise it's not ment to be. You guys are great and I've read alot about certain things your a very good source of info.
And yes sorry typo SE TD6
Thank you again

 

[dinkydave]

That did make me laugh

Cheese
Wicked what kind ?

 

[Shimsteriom]

Cheese
Wicked what kind ?

The one that's full of holes!

 

[dinkydave]

The one that's full of holes!

Swiss cheeses,
such as Emmental and Appenzell.

 

[dinkydave]

Sadly he's unlikely to be a stand up chap, as he sold with known fault and didn't disclose.
Personally my first response would take it back. If hes honest, he'll give you your money back. If you've been duped by someone not honest you'll be taking it home and coming back on here. If the former then great, if the latter, at least the help on here will ease the pain. Might even be worth watching my thread about fuel issues started on Saturday, as I have just had the fuel injection system issue and the Golden Girl is with my local, trusted, indy, as we speak, waiting on the guys being able to fit her in.
Good luck in either case.


P.s For when you get it fixed or get another one: You're not legally allowed to "go any faster than 70mph".
Also it's a TD6 not tdV6

Thank you i will follow that thread.
Yep I know you can't but as I travel to Germany at least 3 times a month that's where I want the over 70mph as my wife is taking the 350z and I get to have the dog in with me as the poor thing won't fit on my bike

 

[tomcat59alan]

The TD

Swiss cheeses,
such as Emmental and Appenzell.

The TD6 gearbox is well known to be a weak point