Where to after the P38?

[Datatek]

To me the seats in the L322 are typical German park bench hard, nowhere near as comfy as the P38, the dash at night is a hazard of bright light and a jumble of controls, that of course is just personal preference.

 

[2.0_hippo]

You will obviously get mixed reviews on here as you have seen.

All I can say is, have a look at a few models and give them a test drive, then you will see what all the fuss is about

 

[wil2813]

l322 all the way, get a fully loaded vogue not a hse

 

[Bix]

To me the seats in the L322 are typical German park bench hard, nowhere near as comfy as the P38, the dash at night is a hazard of bright light and a jumble of controls, that of course is just personal preference.

Something that made me realise how beautiful my P38 is to drive was spending 8 hours on a train to Scotlandica and back. Getting off the train I felt like I'd spent 8 hours with Ron Jeremy... without lube. Settling into the drivers seat, my word, if I believed in a deity I'd have prayed to one at that moment.

 

[2.0_hippo]

l322 all the way, get a fully loaded vogue not a hse

Oii

My HSE is a vogue spec

And 2K cheaper

 

[2.0_hippo]

Something that made me realise how beautiful my P38 is to drive was spending 8 hours on a train to Scotlandica and back. Getting off the train I felt like I'd spent 8 hours with Ron Jeremy... without lube. Settling into the drivers seat, my word, if I believed in a deity I'd have prayed to one at that moment.

Lmao

 

[wil2813]

Oii

My HSE is a vogue spec

And 2K cheaper

lol it cant be vogue spec or it would be a vogue:your_wrong:

 

[Bix]

lol it cant be vogue spec or it would be a vogue:your_wrong:

Sure it can, you could get a HSE with all the same toys as a Vogue but not have to pay for a 2k badge. In the same way you can get a Vogue with Vogue SE toys but without an additional 2k badge. However to spec up a lower model normally cost (from the dealer) more than buying the high spec vehicle to start with.

 

[2.0_hippo]

Sure it can, you could get a HSE with all the same toys as a Vogue but not have to pay for a 2k badge. In the same way you can get a Vogue with Vogue SE toys but without an additional 2k badge. However to spec up a lower model normally cost (from the dealer) more than buying the high spec vehicle to start with.

Bang on !
Thankyou !


Don't get me wrong though, there is some real low spec HSE's out there

 

[wil2813]

my couson has a hse and the seats look like the one me grandad used to sit in,and the leather has the finish of a breezeblock

 

[2.0_hippo]

my couson has a hse and the seats look like the one me grandad used to sit in,and the leather has the finish of a breezeblock

The leather is the same I think

Just different shaped headrests

 

[wil2813]

The leather is the same I think

Just different shaped headrests

theres 3 different grades of leather in a l322, correct me if im wrong

 

[2.0_hippo]

theres 3 different grades of leather in a l322, correct me if im wrong

Oh right

Didn't know that ??

Mine was the same as my mates vogue anyway

 

[wil2813]

it doesnt really matter if ones happy,the point is i prefer l322s over p38s but thats imo i gather you also agree

 

[Saint.V8]

Either My seats have been cared for and moisturised every 6 months since new, but my L322 Seats are much softer than the 3 P38's I have had...

 

[donp38]

what ever you do. try and purchase something with good honest history of good proper work being done on it.
Don't be in a hurry and drive a L322 to see if you prefer it.

With the L322 I would suggest you need to have a £5k bank ability to throw at it as it is to be a dialy driver and time to do great 'V8' type repairs maybe limited.

Have you a prper LR specialist clsoe to you with sensible labour rates? From what I understand the L322 is a time consuming vehicle to work on nevr mind the price of parts.

As your current RR is going well. Look to buy 'out of season' and sell your p38 'in season'. Affording an overlap will give you time to find out what you have bought and get it fixed if need be.

Enjoy and don't rush. My view would be don't even go and look at anything that has not proper history. it will save you lots of time and possibility of buying the wrong one!
regards

 

[Datatek]

what ever you do. try and purchase something with good honest history of good proper work being done on it.
Don't be in a hurry and drive a L322 to see if you prefer it.

With the L322 I would suggest you need to have a £5k bank ability to throw at it as it is to be a dialy driver and time to do great 'V8' type repairs maybe limited.

Have you a prper LR specialist clsoe to you with sensible labour rates? From what I understand the L322 is a time consuming vehicle to work on nevr mind the price of parts.

As your current RR is going well. Look to buy 'out of season' and sell your p38 'in season'. Affording an overlap will give you time to find out what you have bought and get it fixed if need be.

Enjoy and don't rush. My view would be don't even go and look at anything that has not proper history. it will save you lots of time and possibility of buying the wrong one!
regards

Independent Landy specialists here are as rare as hens teeth. Dealer only and parts prices are 2 or 3 times higher than in the UK

 

[jerrytlr]

Keith is right, DIY is the only option for us over here.

If the L322 is impossibly hard to work on (as a benchmark; I have found the P38 to be one of the easiest vehicles I have ever had to work on, but it is a basic manual gearbox DT!) then that rules it out. Usually it is needing loads of special tools that makes DIY too tricky and expensive to contemplate.

What about a Disco III? Problem being for my budget you are looking at something high mileage...

Cheers,

Jerry

 

[Datatek]

Keith is right, DIY is the only option for us over here.

If the L322 is impossibly hard to work on (as a benchmark; I have found the P38 to be one of the easiest vehicles I have ever had to work on, but it is a basic manual gearbox DT!) then that rules it out. Usually it is needing loads of special tools that makes DIY too tricky and expensive to contemplate.

What about a Disco III? Problem being for my budget you are looking at something high mileage...

Cheers,

Jerry

Diagnostics for P38 £350, for the L322 £1K for the same level of competence, EAS diagnostics P38 £15, £350 for Allcomms for the L322, airspring for L322 £300 same as a complete set for the P38, L322 electronics are ridiculously complex, water leaks in the rear quarter gooses the satnav DSP, compressor etc.
I still say you would be better getting a very late P38, 2001/2002 diesel

 

[2.0_hippo]

Diagnostics for P38 £350, for the L322 £1K for the same level of competence, EAS diagnostics P38 £15, £350 for Allcomms for the L322, airspring for L322 £300 same as a complete set for the P38, L322 electronics are ridiculously complex, water leaks in the rear quarter gooses the satnav DSP, compressor etc.
I still say you would be better getting a very late P38, 2001/2002 diesel

Give it a break will ya