Location of 2002 Freelander Throttle Position Sensor

[Charles1068]

I know that I'll get slammed for asking this question. I have a 2002 Freelander and need to replace the Throttle Position Sensor. I have the part, but I'm having difficulty locating the old TPS on the Freelander. Please advise. I've searched this forum high and low and I'm having trouble finding an answer as much as I'm having trouble finding the TPS on the Freelander. Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Hippo]

Welcome.

What colour is it?

Td4 engine? On the accelerator pedal according to the rave disk = free to download manual on how ter fix yer Freelander 1.

 

[Charles1068]

It's grey. How do I download the rave disk?

 

[Charles1068]

This last Monday I was driving my new Freelander just a few days after purchasing. I was driving along and out of the blue it acted like it was running out of gas. I was a low and thought that my gas guage was off, so pulled off to get some gas. At the same time that I started losing power my TC and downhill lights both came on along with the service engine light. I filled up, drove off and the lights reset (went off) and then when I got say over 30 mph, I had this jerk in the rear end, I began losing power and the lights all came on again (TC, downhill and service engine). The vehicle was herky-jerky as if something was wrong with the rear end in the transmission. I was able to drive it to a nearby Autozone and they checked the codes and according to their computer it showed a bad "TPS". According to some research (off this site) I also came to the conclusion that this must be the case (faulty TPS). So I ordered a TPS online. But I do not see anywhere it will go. I've taken the top plastic cover (that houses the air filter), removed the Mass Air Flow sensor, removed the duct work to the Throttle control body and alas, still no TPS. My only conclusion is that the TPS is located within the Throttle body itself, which of course, looks like I would be UNABLE to rebuild and thus would not need a TPS. I would then need a new Throttle body. So my new adventure with the Land Rover has been extremely FRUSTRATING to say the least. So, there you have it. My frustration, exasperation and my need to get this buggy back on the road. My nearest Land Rover stealership is 1.5 hours away. Had I known that LRs are so difficult to work on, I woulnd't have bought this thing. I like to think of myself as an OK mechanic. I just failed to do a better job of doing my research and I'm kicking myself all over the place. Sorry for the long narrative. But wanted to give the best picture I possibly can. Thanks for reading and for possible solutions.

This is a 2002 Freelander 2.5L V6. 49K miles. Purchased for $6500 and probably was a HUGE waste of my money after doing further research online (which I should have done a better job BEFORE purchasing!) I had no intent of going toward LR, but the black, shiny, pretty thing called my name. I thought I would have been lucky getting a rig at under 50K miles. But I guess when you think you're getting a steal, you're probably getting highjacked somewhere else. Hope someone can help me out there!!!!

 

[Hippo]

Ah, so it's a grey v6.

Your tps is mounted on the throttle boby, which is to the left of the red battery connection in the pic below. Follow the 4inch diameter air tube on the rhs side of the acustic cover under the cover to the metal throttle body.

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[Hippo]

rave disk help:

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f9/rave-any-use-me-158741.html

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f38/rave-cd-downloads-free-46086.html

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f10/rave-download-doesnt-work-160163.html

 

[Charles1068]

OK...thank you. Have the same engine there, but looking at the Throttle Body, there is no way to get into it to replace the TPS or am I still overlooking it?

Here are some pics of my engine and the throttle body plus what I've purchased which is the Throttle Position Sensor.

Thanks for the help so far...

 

[Charles1068]

I actually had some oil in the 4 in. tube that lead to the Mass Air Flow...is that normal? It seemed like there was some dry oil within the Throttle body itself around the butterfly.

 

[Hippo]

Found some more pics:

freelander v6 throttle body | eBay

Never done the tps replacement but from the rave disk it looks like it can be changed. See attached.

I have oil in my 4 inch pipe too. Only a small amount. Has always returned even when wiped out. Don’t now why.

 

[Charles1068]

Hippo -

Thank you so much for your responses and help. It helps just to know you are not out on an island all by yourself!

The throttle body that you listed from eBay is different than the throttle body on my Freelander. I think that's why I can't find the throttle position sensor. From the Rave and eBay pics, they match each other, but my throttle body is different. Also, I think all the Ebay pics are from circa 2001 Freelanders. Perhaps they changed the throttle body for the 2002. Does it make any difference whether the vehicle is cruise control or not? One of the things that is bizarre to me is that I don't see a thottle cable to the throttle body on mine. I've typed 2002 Freelander throttle body on Ebay and the one on mine shows up in that search. So, I'm a bit baffled. Again, thanks for trying to help me sort this all out!

Thank you, Charles

 

[Hippo]

Ere's me throttle body. White towel to stop muck getting it. Don't switch on with this in place or it'll get sucked in.

And from the top. You can see the throttle cable in this pic. If yours doesn't have one, then look at the accelerator pedal to see if it has a throttle cable. May be that its routed differently or doesn't have one and it's electric. Signal would then be generated from a sensor on the accelerator pedal I assume.

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And me engine:

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[Hippo]

From microcat:

 

[vic.middleton]

One of the things that is bizarre to me is that I don't see a thottle cable to the throttle body on mine.
The throttle is controlled electrically. Engine demand is sensed by the APP sensor connected to the throttle pedal. This sends a signal to the ECU which drives a DC motor in the throttle body housing which positions the throttle. The TPS then reports the throttle position back to the ECU. Thus there is no mechanical connection between your foot and the engine.

 

[Charles1068]

I think that's exactly like mine vic.middleton. Hippo, your throttle body is different from mine. The pic shows the throttle body on my 2002 Freelander. Completely different looking.

 

[vic.middleton]

The TPS you showed in your picture was the one for the mechanically controlled throttle, not the one for the electric throttle. Yours is buried within the black cover of the unit. The one shown bolts on to the outside of the housing.

 

[Hippo]

Charles1068, does your accelerator pedal have a cable wire running off it? Any other v6 owners from 2002 onwards too?

Would confirm of they changed to electric in 2002 models onwards, world wide, if 2002 onwards didn't have the cable wire.

 

[Nodge68]

Charles1068, does your accelerator pedal have a cable wire running off it? Any other v6 owners from 2002 onwards too?

Would confirm of they changed to electric in 2002 models onwards, world wide, if 2002 onwards didn't have the cable wire.

I know this is an old post but I have some answers to it.
1 all US Freelander V6 engines are equipped with a drive by wire Throttle Body. This is done to comply with differing emission regulations in the states. The exhaust and Cats are diffent too along with the engine ECU and it's mapping.
2 the oil you find in the throttle body is discharged from the both breather pipes. It comes out the engine as a hot oily mist which then sticks to the long inlet plenum walls. From there is slowly runs down to the lowest point which is why you see in the the TB. It's harmless and normal.
Sorry to drag up an old post.

 

[Hippo]

thanks