Police AVCIS operation on Ebay sales of V5's/Vin plates but no chassis

Land Rover 1972 tax exempt V5 | eBay

Another - sure this one has listed before.

thanks - have sent it on.

might be completely genuine, but the infor doesnt seem to add up in these two adverts for the same vehicle

1994 (M) LAND ROVER DEFENDER 90 300 TDI in Ramsey, Huntingdon, Cambridge | Used Land Rover for sale | Gumtree.com

LAND ROVER DEFENDER 90 300 TDI , ON GALVANISED CHASSIS | eBay

rasclatMC said:

might be completely genuine, but the infor doesnt seem to add up in these two adverts for the same vehicle

1994 (M) LAND ROVER DEFENDER 90 300 TDI in Ramsey, Huntingdon, Cambridge | Used Land Rover for sale | Gumtree.com

LAND ROVER DEFENDER 90 300 TDI , ON GALVANISED CHASSIS | eBay

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Don't see anything wrong with that one. Only question would be why 2 different prices. Their not selling it as tax exempt. Looks like a nicely done re build.

The only thing that confused me was the two places, and it appears to be in two different places. One in Goole, yorkshire and then again in cambridge.
I might be wrong but it just looked a bit wierd to me, on the other hand it could be completely genuine and a complete bargain

gumtree is know for scams they take pictures of ebay post on gumtree and sell a car they only have pictures for. So car could be gen. but gumtree add a scam

This one had me stroking my chin:

200 LAND ROVER 90 WITH ALL TD5 TOP ,ENGINE,GEARBOX, CAB & BACK 200 CHASSIS | eBay

an F reg TD5? i wonder if they have all the receipts for those extra parts that have been used to 'convert' it, or was it perhaps converted to a TD5 by swapping the F reg plates onto a TD5 they had found lying around somewhere?

BasilSeal said:

This one had me stroking my chin:

200 LAND ROVER 90 WITH ALL TD5 TOP ,ENGINE,GEARBOX, CAB & BACK 200 CHASSIS | eBay

an F reg TD5? i wonder if they have all the receipts for those extra parts that have been used to 'convert' it, or was it perhaps converted to a TD5 by swapping the F reg plates onto a TD5 they had found lying around somewhere?

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Looks too good to be F reg, no F reg bits to be seen as far as I can see. Complete later interior as well.

This bloke is just taking the ****

LIGHTWEIGHT LANDROVER CHASSIS & ID,V5 | eBay

"I will post you a matchbox full of rusty metal if you want it to stay within ebay rules"

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****.

landowner said:

Looks too good to be F reg, no F reg bits to be seen as far as I can see. Complete later interior as well.

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It looks like a ringer to me, there's none of that is f reg, it's TD5 chassis, TD5 running gear, and TD5 body, it's a TD5, someone else's TD5, probably.

My project Disco 1 is to make it a pick-up/trayback, if I had managed to pick up a 1972 landy with buggered chassis and put it on my Disco chassis would I not be able to register it as a 1972 Landy? would I have to register it as my original Disco 1????

Maisy said:

My project Disco 1 is to make it a pick-up/trayback, if I had managed to pick up a 1972 landy with buggered chassis and put it on my Disco chassis would I not be able to register it as a 1972 Landy? would I have to register it as my original Disco 1????

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Disco. changing the body over doesn't suddenly make the landy 40 years younger ??

Maisy said:

My project Disco 1 is to make it a pick-up/trayback, if I had managed to pick up a 1972 landy with buggered chassis and put it on my Disco chassis would I not be able to register it as a 1972 Landy? would I have to register it as my original Disco 1????

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You would have to register it as a Discovery, as that is the chassis that you will be using.

Land rover chassis remains with V5 | eBay
LIGHTWEIGHT LANDROVER CHASSIS & ID,V5 | eBay

I thought that was the case, mine is still going to be a Disco anyway but it was something that crossed my mind as I know of a couple of old boys that run 1960's Series 2's on Range Rover Classic chassis, I was even thinking to buy one already done but will now steer clear knowing I might loose it to the old bill, thanks guys

shirley an s2 on a rangie chassis aint a prob...... unless yu call it a tax exempt S2?

Maisy said:

I thought that was the case, mine is still going to be a Disco anyway but it was something that crossed my mind as I know of a couple of old boys that run 1960's Series 2's on Range Rover Classic chassis, I was even thinking to buy one already done but will now steer clear knowing I might loose it to the old bill, thanks guys

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As a general rule of thumb, in order to keep an age related plate, you need to use either an original unmodified chassis, or a replacement that is an exact copy of the original, and at least 2 other major components. On a Land Rover, the body is not considered as a major component. If you use a chassis that has been modified in any way, or you don't use enough original major components, the the vehicle must be subjected to an IVA or SVA and VOSA will either issue an age related plate, or a Q plate. A useful guide can be found here http://www.minimag.co.uk/files/2011/08/inf262.pdf

Thanks all for recent posts of suspicions etc. Have forwarded them on to AVCIS.

They recently told me they were due to pay a visit to a couple of new owners of v5's and a bucket of rust. Have asked for some feedback... let you know

yes, i'd be interested to know how that works out.

I had the following reply from the F reg TD5 owner to my question as to whether they had any receipts for the parts used to 'convert' it.:

No I bought the car from a land rover enthusiast in derby, my dad owned a garage in Yorkshire and came with me to inspect the chassis numbers and things, the td5 parts came off a 2004 land rover and was fitted by the last owner.

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martin1512 said:

..... A useful guide can be found here http://www.minimag.co.uk/files/2011/08/inf262.pdf

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Thanks that link is useful. I hadn't realised the points system only applied to radically altered vehicles.
The regs for rebuilt vehicles are slightly less onerous, which makes all the mud thrown at people selling "ringers" cos it's got a series 3 bulkhead (or whatever) even less justified.