L322 TD6 continuing battery failures

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Frizzer

Frizzer

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My 2003 TD6 has had 4 batteries in the 4 years I've owned it. My local recovery guys know it so well they can drive straight to it! I know it does few runs, and often short ones but I've spent the winter charging it before every run. Today, in hot weather, afteraa 20 mile run yesterday,it died in Tesco car park. Again. Jumped it from daughters little Mazda easily. But it's really annoying. Both my batteries have been tested OK. Any remedies apart from buying a Skoda!
 
You could try going to the Skoda dealer's and see if they sell boxes of P&Qs, with their vehicles, as the previous owner of your L322 seems to have removed them from yours

The L322 does not like short runs. It also does not like being constantly drained due to .........short runs. The battery does not like being constantly drained and not properly recharged, it also doesnt like you constantly jumping it, or putting a charger on it. Therefore, it develops a huffy attitude, otherwise known as crystallisation and holds less and less charge , every time.Try a new battery, and keeping it charged. If the problem persists, by then the search function may be working, and you can search for the various causes , other than short runs.

P.s check it has the correct battery for the trim.
 
If you're using Lion batteries from Eurocarparts I'd suggest you look elsewhere.
When I took my 3rd back the chap behind the counter cheerfully told me they reckon to get 1/3 back within the warranty period - I'm trade & I suspect he didn't realise this was off my own RRC.
 
gold rover said:
You could try going to the Skoda dealer's and see if they sell boxes of P&Qs, with their vehicles, as the previous owner of your L322 seems to have removed them from yours

The L322 does not like short runs. It also does not like being constantly drained due to .........short runs. The battery does not like being constantly drained and not properly recharged, it also doesnt like you constantly jumping it, or putting a charger on it. Therefore, it develops a huffy attitude, otherwise known as crystallisation and holds less and less charge , every time.Try a new battery, and keeping it charged. If the problem persists, by then the search function may be working, and you can search for the various causes , other than short runs.

P.s check it has the correct battery for the trim.
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Thanks for the replies, gentlemen. I understand what you're telling me.. The first two batteries were ATS own brand, the third was Bosch and is my spare. The current one is a genuine Landrover supplied by my local independent Range Rover specialist two years ago. I previously had 3 Disco V8s with no problem except fuel consumption! So correct me if I'm wrong.. For an old git in his seventies who doesn't get out much the L322 TD6 was the wrong choice of vehicle. Something small, ordinary, characterless and petrol powered would be ideal? I don't wantwto join the old people yet!
 
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Is your alternator charging correctly and have you checked for parasitic drain ?
You have an option of a solar trickle charger but I wouldn’t think you should need it.
 
Frizzer said:
Thanks for the replies, gentlemen. I understand what you're telling me.. The first two batteries were ATS own brand, the third was Bosch and is my spare. The current one is a genuine Landrover supplied by my local independent Range Rover specialist two years ago. I previously had 3 Disco V8s with no problem except fuel consumption! So correct me if I'm wrong.. For an old git in his seventies who doesn't get out much the L322 TD6 was the wrong choice of vehicle. Something small, ordinary, characterless and petrol powered would be ideal? I don't wantwto join the old people yet!
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
If you're only doing short & infrequent trips you'd probably be better with a petrol version.
Friend of mine recently bought a diesel VW - company car - only does short journeys as he lives less then 5 miles from work & has had a lot of dpf issues.
Bit of internettery suggests this is a common problem across all diesels.

Does suggest that you've either got a parasitic drain OR your journeys just aren't enough to top the battery up after each start so it's just a downwards spiral. Bear in mind that alternators aren't intended to recharge flat batteries rather to maintain a charged battery at a good level & run the vehicle electrics.
Not just my opinion: https://www.optimabatteries.com/en-...nators-are-not-designed-charge-dead-batteries
 
I didn't think a 2003 TD6 had a dpf.

If, like me, the OP does a lot of tiny mileages with long stops (taking elderly people to shops, church and so on), I reckon pre-dpf diesel is the way to go. My petrol auto Omega did 40mpg in long runs, 7 to 9mpg with ladies, the diesel Octavia does about 70mpg on long runs, in the 30's with ladies, the L322 td6 did 33 on long run across N Wales last week, about 22mpg on lady duties. Cold petrol engines are a disaster.

I have recently invested in an ebay usb gubbins that displays, in sequence, battery voltage, usb current and usb voltage. I use one in each vehicle to feed the dashcams and usb charging of phone etc. The battery voltage read in each vehicle is slightly lower than the voltage measured across the battery, but gives a good idea what is going on without opening the bonnet.

At £1.99 each, free delivery, I am very impressed.
 
If I might suggest something?
Get yourself a CTEK charger 5-7Amp version will do; and a comfort connector with 6 or 8mm eyelets (as required).
The comfort connector has 3 traffic light LED's that flash and indicate the battery charge state (fully charged - Green), (needs a top-up - Amber), (definitely low on charge - Red).
I have mine accessible from outside the car (tucked into the radiator grill). The Ctek charger provides a de-sulphation cycle and in "Maintenance mode" provides "top-up" only when needed, so can be left permanently connected for long periods.
Is used a lot by boat & mobile home folks to keep batteries fresh as a daisy.
 
No DPF of the TD6, I have been playing with an 06 TD6 for a while, I put a superbatt, battery on it as a cheap replacement as the original was going flat every couple of days and wouldn't hold a charge and it has been fantastic. I would leave the vehicle unlocked all day while working on it, loads of start and stops without driving and little short test drives and it has been great and it starts on the button every time and for the money I think it is great so far.
With all the messing around i haven't had to charge it once.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/19107057...il&pgrp=main:email&e=op&mchn=em&s=ci&mail=sys
 
Parasitic drain, probably quite large, combined with short runs. When I got mine it would not start after 4 days of no use, that is starting with a fully charged battery. Bought a clamp meter and spent an afternoon testing various components and got the drain down from around 250mA to 70mA. Now it will start, just about, after two weeks.

Also get an 020 battery, rather than the standard 019. It's a tighter fit, but will go.
 
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