Winch Power / "Gods Must Be etc" Any truth?

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This has probably been asked before but I can't find a reference: did
or does a Landy winch have the power to haul an 88 or 90 vertically
from the ground, as delightfully portrayed in that film?

I grew up in canvas 88's in the 1950's, but we never had a winch----.

 
[email protected] wrote:

> This has probably been asked before but I can't find a reference: did
> or does a Landy winch have the power to haul an 88 or 90 vertically
> from the ground, as delightfully portrayed in that film?
>
> I grew up in canvas 88's in the 1950's, but we never had a winch----.


I can't answer this for sure, but winches other than capstan winches were
rare on Landrovers until at least the eighties, and the ones fitted before
this were invariably direct mechanical or hydraulic. Either of these could
well have had enough power to do what you are asking, but as they rely on
engine power, the engine would have stopped before it became vertical due
to either fuel starvation or lubrication failure.

The winch in the film was clearly electric. These were either non-existent
or very uncommon until the eighties (the availability of these with their
relatively low cost and easy installation meant they then became much more
common). Some (but not all) electric winches have enough power to haul an
88 or 90 vertical, and running from the battery are not dependent on the
engine keeping going. Although they obviously would do better with a sealed
or at least semi-sealed battery.
JD
 

"JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> This has probably been asked before but I can't find a reference: did
>> or does a Landy winch have the power to haul an 88 or 90 vertically
>> from the ground, as delightfully portrayed in that film?
>>
>> I grew up in canvas 88's in the 1950's, but we never had a winch----.

>
> I can't answer this for sure, but winches other than capstan winches were
> rare on Landrovers until at least the eighties, and the ones fitted before
> this were invariably direct mechanical or hydraulic. Either of these could
> well have had enough power to do what you are asking, but as they rely on
> engine power, the engine would have stopped before it became vertical due
> to either fuel starvation or lubrication failure.
>
> The winch in the film was clearly electric. These were either non-existent
> or very uncommon until the eighties (the availability of these with their
> relatively low cost and easy installation meant they then became much more
> common). Some (but not all) electric winches have enough power to haul an
> 88 or 90 vertical, and running from the battery are not dependent on the
> engine keeping going. Although they obviously would do better with a
> sealed
> or at least semi-sealed battery.
> JD


The winch in question is a very old Ramsey DCY8000 series, most likely a
DCY900R, with a commercially rated line pull of 8000lbs and a stall pull of
12000lbs, so it would quite easily raise a landrover off the ground as long
as it has sufficient current supply (450A at 8000lbs on the first layer of
the drum) and the landy isn't loaded to over, say, 6000lbs. It's the same
winch I have on my 110, and it's a cracking piece of kit, much better made
than a lot of the winches on the market today.
Badger.


 
[email protected] wrote:
> This has probably been asked before but I can't find a reference: did
> or does a Landy winch have the power to haul an 88 or 90 vertically
> from the ground, as delightfully portrayed in that film?
>
> I grew up in canvas 88's in the 1950's, but we never had a winch----.


It was an electric winch, so as long as The Anti-Christ was fitted with a
sealed battery to stop the acid running out, it's entirely feasible. Having
owned a Series 1 of that ilk I remember the film fondly as it brought back
memories of a good piece of Meccano-like kit I used to own before I came out
to Oz many years ago.

Karen


--
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast


 

Karen Gallagher wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > This has probably been asked before but I can't find a reference: did
> > or does a Landy winch have the power to haul an 88 or 90 vertically
> > from the ground, as delightfully portrayed in that film?
> >
> > I grew up in canvas 88's in the 1950's, but we never had a winch----.

>
> It was an electric winch, so as long as The Anti-Christ was fitted with a
> sealed battery to stop the acid running out, it's entirely feasible. Having
> owned a Series 1 of that ilk I remember the film fondly as it brought back
> memories of a good piece of Meccano-like kit I used to own before I came out
> to Oz many years ago.
>
> Karen


**** I'd like to say a big THANKS to the prompt and helpful (and
unbelievably fact-fileld) responses to my question.

Now, "Anti-Christ" is --- what? The film-sta Landy's nickname? An 88
Series I nickname? Cheers! ****

..

 

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> Karen Gallagher wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > This has probably been asked before but I can't find a reference: did
>> > or does a Landy winch have the power to haul an 88 or 90 vertically
>> > from the ground, as delightfully portrayed in that film?
>> >
>> > I grew up in canvas 88's in the 1950's, but we never had a winch----.

>>
>> It was an electric winch, so as long as The Anti-Christ was fitted with a
>> sealed battery to stop the acid running out, it's entirely feasible.
>> Having
>> owned a Series 1 of that ilk I remember the film fondly as it brought
>> back
>> memories of a good piece of Meccano-like kit I used to own before I came
>> out
>> to Oz many years ago.
>>
>> Karen

>
> **** I'd like to say a big THANKS to the prompt and helpful (and
> unbelievably fact-fileld) responses to my question.
>
> Now, "Anti-Christ" is --- what? The film-sta Landy's nickname? An 88
> Series I nickname? Cheers! ****


It was also referred to as "son of a malakka", I think, whatever that
translates into!
Badger.


 
>
> It was also referred to as "son of a malakka", I think, whatever that
> translates into!
> Badger.
>
>


"Malakka" is a Greek swear-word isn't it? at least, thats what all the wogs
here say.

Sam.


 

"Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
>> It was also referred to as "son of a malakka", I think, whatever that
>> translates into!
>> Badger.
>>
>>

>
> "Malakka" is a Greek swear-word isn't it? at least, thats what all the
> wogs
> here say.


Aahhh... WOG....;. Weight On Ground switch, as fitted to the undercarriage
of an aircraft, now renamed WOW (Weight On Wheels) by the PC brigade, god
bless 'em! ;-)
Badger.


 
[email protected] wrote:
> Karen Gallagher wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> This has probably been asked before but I can't find a reference:
>>> did or does a Landy winch have the power to haul an 88 or 90
>>> vertically from the ground, as delightfully portrayed in that film?
>>>
>>> I grew up in canvas 88's in the 1950's, but we never had a
>>> winch----.

>>
>> It was an electric winch, so as long as The Anti-Christ was fitted
>> with a sealed battery to stop the acid running out, it's entirely
>> feasible. Having owned a Series 1 of that ilk I remember the film
>> fondly as it brought back memories of a good piece of Meccano-like
>> kit I used to own before I came out to Oz many years ago.
>>
>> Karen

>
> **** I'd like to say a big THANKS to the prompt and helpful (and
> unbelievably fact-fileld) responses to my question.
>
> Now, "Anti-Christ" is --- what? The film-sta Landy's nickname? An 88
> Series I nickname? Cheers! ****
>
> .


Yes, the name the mechanic in the film called it, amongst other colourful
names. I often think of using that name for my 38 year old S11, which has
just given me a good weekend's service helping a friend of mine move house,
in the middle of a near cyclonic storm that has lasted all weeked. Thank
heavens for the holes in the floor letting all the rain drain away :)

Karen


--
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast


 
Yes those unplanned holes in the floor are useful for something :)

--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"Karen Gallagher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Karen Gallagher wrote:

>
> Yes, the name the mechanic in the film called it, amongst other colourful
> names. I often think of using that name for my 38 year old S11, which has
> just given me a good weekend's service helping a friend of mine move

house,
> in the middle of a near cyclonic storm that has lasted all weeked. Thank
> heavens for the holes in the floor letting all the rain drain away :)
>
> Karen
>
>
> --
> "I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
> - Slartibartfast
>
>



 
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