Which oil is best for a 200 tdi and how often

mikescuba · Dec 7, 2012

I have tried to do a search but could not find what I was looking for.
I have a 200tdi and do a filter and oil change every 7000 Kilometers which is about 4350 miles. I normally use a Semi synthetic type oil.
Mine is used for normal road use with a little off roading down tracks and into the forest but not really hard work for the engine.
What is everyone else doing?

robint · Dec 7, 2012

tractor oil from mole valley farmers

Trewey · Dec 7, 2012

robint said:
tractor oil from mole valley farmers

Spot on!

Wise words from the legendary CharlesY -

[FONT=&quot]People get all excited about oil grades, so they get ripped off by the oil sellers who make BIG BUCKS selling ridiculously expensive potions in fancy plastic bottles.

My oil comes in a big steel barrel, 210 litres at a time. No messing!

Engine oil is engine oil. Start there.

Next, is it a petrol engine or a diesel?
Petrol engines get the crappy puny left-overs oils because they work under a lot less strain, and don't get polluted with carbon black.
Diesel engines get tougher grades of oil because these engines work harder all the time and there's a lot more carbon black gets into it down past the piston rings.
So diesel engine oils are far better oils, for ALL engines, petrol or diesel.

The grades to use hardly matters at all as long as it is an ENGINE oil. You will probably destroy your engine if you fill the sump with EP140 axle oil for example, but any engine oil with more or less any combination of SAE grades from 5 to 50 with or without a W is going to be just dandy,

In really REALLY cold weather a LOW grade number will make starting slightly easier especially if is has a W too, such as 10W-40 or even thinner, 5W-30 for instance.

In the summer, maybe a 20-50 would be good, with or without the W.

But, DO NOT GET NEUROTIC and DO NOT GET RIPPED OFF!

Choose a good basic grade of oil such as any of the tractor universals with a grade of about 15W/40 and off you go knowing you are using the best there is and not getting robbed.

When you think of the abuse farmers give their diesel engines, you can be sure the oil people supply the best of stuff!

Just repeat after me - "Fully synthetic oils are NOT better lubricants. They just cost ten times as much and last up to twice as long".

The maths isn't that difficult to work out.

Hey, I should add this. Basically oils have a grade number that says how thick (or runny) it is at a certain temperature. I think the SAE oils were tested at 60°F. SAE is the USA Society of Automotive Engineers.

So, a SAE 30 grade oil is runnier than a SAE 40 grade, which would be a little thinner than a SAE 50. SAE 50 would be thicker than SAE 40 or any grade number less.

Now then, long ago in the early days of motoring in VERY COLD temperatures some oils tended to get far too THICK compared to other oils even of the same basic SAE grade, and engines were often so gummed up by thick gooey oil they would not even start. I have experienced that in my early motorbike days. My Triumph 500 GP was a brute to kick-start if SAE 40 oil was in the tank even though it had a "dry sump". The oil was like syrup in cold weather.

In those days there were no so-called "multi-grade" oils, and most cars would be given clean oil every 3,000 miles, using a SAE 20 in winter and a SAE 40 in the summer. These oils were later called MONO grade oils. Chancers used SAE 30 all the time.

The oil companies put their brains in top gear and worked out ways to make oils that stayed thin (like a SAE 20) when cold and stayed quite thick (like a SAE 40) when hot. These oils behaved as if they had multiple grades, so they called them multi-grade oils, and they gave them TWO grade numbers such as SAE 15-40 to indicate it behaves like a SAE 15 when cold, and SAE 40 when hot. The W such as 15W-40 just indicates a slightly enhanced cold weather flowing ability.

So ... why do the User Manuals specify all those grades and BRANDS of oils? Easy - because the oil companies pay them BIG BUCKS to do that! An incredible amount of money is spent on oil advertising. They used to say that Castrol spent more money advertising GTX than they spent making the oil! In those days Castrol didn't tell you the grade and the oil was a pathetic blend almost a monograde. The only clever thing about it was the incredible HYPE. Smart people used Duckhams 20-50, but that didn't last after BP bought Duckhams. Things have changed since hopefully. But remember, advertising costs are factored in to the cost of the oil, so guess who pays for every penny of it at the end of the day.

Buy quality oils, buy in bulk, do not buy "trendy" or "synthetic" oils and use the good value to change the oil and filter every 5-6,000 miles.

Changing the oil (that is, draining it right out) is BY FAR the most effective way of removing all the crap, acids, water, carbon black, metal fragments and so on. Using synthetic oils for twice as long means all that bad stuff stays in the engine much longer, eating away at your bearing rings and pistons all the time.

DIY oil and filter changes are so easy, and so cheap, we should do it often. It costs me under £10 to change the oil and filter in my Disco TD5. That's a tad less than a LR main dealer would charge!

CharlesY [/FONT]

discomania · Dec 7, 2012

Yeah and his Saab 900 has done over 200k miles on the stuff!

timtheenchanteruk · Dec 7, 2012

good advice there trewey

Ive not had mine long, but I'll do the same as other deisels Ive had, oil & filter every 6 months, which for me is about 3-4000miles, think its a 15-40 thats in there atm.
Its made by millers, all the local mechanincs use it, so its good by me,

mikescuba · Dec 7, 2012

210 litre Drum, divided by 7 litres that would give me 30 oil changes. average of three oil changes a year that would give me enough oil for 10 years or 130,500 miles.
I will have to find out how much this stuff is.

Which oil is best for a 200 tdi and how often

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Cockernee, Pasty munchin bastid.

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