What engine is in my landy?

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Safetyspice

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All, just bought a Landry a couple of weeks ago, I have read the manuals and really getting mixed up with all of the engine types. 200dti, 300dti,,,,,,,, j type…

the all the log book says 2495cc heavy oil. I have attached a pic, can any one tell me pls
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Disco 200 tdi
Check engine number first 2 numbers and letters will tell all.

Anderson plug a nice touch, watch that top rad hose on the alternator fan.
 
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200Tdi (engine code: 11L, 12L, 13L and 14L)[edit]

200Tdi

This Defender-spec 200Tdi has been retrofitted into an earlier vehicle. It lacks the intercooler fitted to the standard engine and has the alternator mounted in a different location.
Overview
Production
1989–1994
Layout
Configuration
Inline-4 cylinders
Displacement 2.5 L; 152.3 cu in (2,495 cc)
Cylinder bore 90.47 mm (3.562 in)
Piston stroke 97 mm (3.82 in)
Block material Cast iron
Head material Aluminium alloy
Valvetrain OHV, belt-driven camshaft, push-rod operated
Compression ratio 19.0:1
Combustion
Turbocharger
Garrett T2
Fuel system VE rotary pump + two-stage injectors
Management Bosch
Fuel type Diesel
Output
Power output
113 hp (84 kW) @ 4,250 rpm (Discovery and Range Rover); 109 hp (81 kW) @ 3,900 rpm (Defender)
Torque output 195 lb⋅ft (264 N⋅m) @ 1,800 rpm (Discovery and Range Rover); 188 lb⋅ft (255 N⋅m) @ 1,800 rpm (Defender)
In 1989, Land Rover had launched the Discovery its Range Rover-based family 4×4 that quickly became Europe's top-selling 4×4.[58] One of the key reasons for its success was its ground-breaking turbo-diesel engine. The 200Tdi was one of the first mass-produced, small-capacity (i.e., not a lorry engine) direct-injection diesels,[59] with the attendant improvements in power and efficiency that system brings. Developed under the codename Gemini, the 200Tdi was planned from the start to be used on all Land Rover's products.[13] For production reasons, it had to be machined on the existing machinery, so used the same block and crankshaft as the existing 2.5-litre diesel engines. It also used many ancillary parts used on the older engines.[60][61] However, it was a true break with the past. An aluminium alloy cylinder head reduced weight and noise, a new Bosch injection system gave improved running characteristics and better starting performance. An intercooler boosted power and efficiency further. Lessons learnt from the Diesel Turbo were included, such as the fitment of an inertial separator in the breather system to remove oil before crankcase gases were returned to the air intake. Initially turbocharged and naturally aspirated diesel versions and a carburettor-fed petrol version were to be produced. The direct-injection system meant that only machining of the injector sockets was needed to allow the fitment of spark plugs. However, the performance and economy of the turbodiesel version was such that the other variants were not produced.[13] The 200Tdi was launched in the Discovery in 1989. It was then fitted to the utility Land Rover (renamed the Defender) in late 1990.[62] For this application, the engine was slightly detuned, and whilst in the Discovery the 200Tdi used all-new components, packaging restraints in the Defender meant that the 200Tdi in this role shared many exterior parts (such as the timing belt system and case) with the Diesel Turbo. Most obviously, the turbocharger was retained in the Diesel Turbo's high mounting position on top of the manifolds in the Defender, rather than being tucked under the manifolds in the original Discovery version.[63] In 1992, the engine was fitted to the Range Rover. In the Range Rover it has a 14L engine number. Although the older petrol and naturally aspirated diesel units were theoretically still available, the 200Tdi had better performance and economy than either of them, so dominated the sales figures.[64] It is still highly regarded by Land Rover enthusiasts and has established itself as a powerful and long-lived unit that with proper maintenance can exceed 300,000 miles (480,000 km) of use.[63][65][66]

Used in: Land Rover Defender, Discovery, and Range Rover
 
Log book says 19j, will check engine number tomorrow, looks like it may have had a replacement engine at some point

Its defo not the original as its a disco unit and that fuel filter set up is pre tdi, what year is the car?

If you google land rover vin decoder and stick you chassis number in it should tell you what the car was new, 19j 90 and fuel type.
 
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Hi All, finally got to the Landy to check engine number, it looks to be 12L68457.

Also checked rad hose, it has a groove under it where at some point the alternator has been rubbing. now just need to understand what engine it is so I can try and sort out the right top hose
 
How can anyone buy a vehicle and not know what engine it has? I find it incomprehensible!!!!

Because the advert just says 2.5 turbo diesel, now we all know to avoid the turbo diesel (19j) but we still buy the tdi/td5 which are of course still 2.5 turbo diesel.

To most people an engine is simply an engine, look how many people buy d3 and dont know about the crank shells, same people who buy the d4 or any lr with the 3.0 v6 and dont know about the crank issues.
 
Because the advert just says 2.5 turbo diesel, now we all know to avoid the turbo diesel (19j) but we still buy the tdi/td5 which are of course still 2.5 turbo diesel.

To most people an engine is simply an engine, look how many people buy d3 and dont know about the crank shells, same people who buy the d4 or any lr with the 3.0 v6 and dont know about the crank issues.
Sorry. I just can’t relate. If I’m paying money (a substantial amount of money). I’d want to know exactly what I was buying. Be it a Land Rover or anything else. It is completely incomprehensible to do otherwise.
 
Sorry. I just can’t relate. If I’m paying money (a substantial amount of money). I’d want to know exactly what I was buying. Be it a Land Rover or anything else. It is completely incomprehensible to do otherwise.

I can relate and Im a mechanic, well actually paid to pretend to be a mechanic!
You would be amazed just how few people have any idea on mechanical devices of any kind.
How often do you drive along and see people with their bonnets up in their driveway?
Down my road of 45 houses theres me and one other guy who diy their cars. And hes only servicing not engines/cambelts etc like I do, I dont want to do it either but I aint paying to have it done!
 
To be honest, I know very little about diesel engines, as I have always played with American V8s. When we bought the Landy, I was told it had a 2.5 diesel engine in it, looked under the bonnet and yes, there is a diesel engine in there. I had no idea what so ever that there were so many variations and they get swopped and changed until I came here and started talking with you guys.
 
To be honest, I know very little about diesel engines, as I have always played with American V8s. When we bought the Landy, I was told it had a 2.5 diesel engine in it, looked under the bonnet and yes, there is a diesel engine in there. I had no idea what so ever that there were so many variations and they get swopped and changed until I came here and started talking with you guys.
That's fine, but in that case you must have done less than zero research before buying..... which again completely flummoxes me.

Let's face it, its not as if there was only one American V8 engine either. I'm sure you'd want to what you were buying, as it would make a huge difference to power, tuning, parts and servicing.
 
To be honest, I know very little about diesel engines, as I have always played with American V8s. When we bought the Landy, I was told it had a 2.5 diesel engine in it, looked under the bonnet and yes, there is a diesel engine in there. I had no idea what so ever that there were so many variations and they get swopped and changed until I came here and started talking with you guys.
Also remember, you should make sure you declare the engine swap to your insurance.
 
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