[wanted] locking nuts and/or key

Greetings One & All

Vehicle: late 'M' reg Discovery ('95 I think that is)
Wheels are Alloy

Some may recall I don't have the key for the locking wheel nuts - not yet
losing sleep over this but I do have a couple of jobs to do, so ... if any
of the suppliers reading can assist....

Here are some pics:

http://williamtasso.com/components/gallery/?gallery=\land-rover-bits\locking

these locking nuts are the splined type with three 'flats'. Spline count
between the flats is 4/5/5

failing that, I can get them off using the old-fashioned
brute-force-and-ignorance techniques - doubt they'll be in any fit state
to go back on, so a new set of locking nuts and key perhaps?

last option I guess would be a few extra wheel nuts.

do let me know if further info is required. I've tried the local Land
Rover parts departmnent - these locking nuts do not appear to be a L/R
fitment. I hope somebody recognises them.

Thanks for reading.
--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

In message <[email protected]>
"William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Greetings One & All
>
> Vehicle: late 'M' reg Discovery ('95 I think that is)
> Wheels are Alloy
>
> Some may recall I don't have the key for the locking wheel nuts - not yet
> losing sleep over this but I do have a couple of jobs to do, so ... if any
> of the suppliers reading can assist....
>
> Here are some pics:
>
> http://williamtasso.com/components/gallery/?gallery=\land-rover-bits\locking
>
> these locking nuts are the splined type with three 'flats'. Spline count
> between the flats is 4/5/5
>
> failing that, I can get them off using the old-fashioned
> brute-force-and-ignorance techniques - doubt they'll be in any fit state
> to go back on, so a new set of locking nuts and key perhaps?
>
> last option I guess would be a few extra wheel nuts.
>
> do let me know if further info is required. I've tried the local Land
> Rover parts departmnent - these locking nuts do not appear to be a L/R
> fitment. I hope somebody recognises them.
>
> Thanks for reading.

They look very much like Britpart - but the ones on the shelf
here are 3/4/5 splines - I've never looked, but I suspect the
spline count is randomised as they are supplied under one
part number.

Richard
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William Tasso <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Greetings One & All
>
> Vehicle: late 'M' reg Discovery ('95 I think that is)
> Wheels are Alloy
>
> Some may recall I don't have the key for the locking wheel nuts - not
> yet losing sleep over this but I do have a couple of jobs to do, so
> ... if any of the suppliers reading can assist....
>
> Here are some pics:
>
> http://williamtasso.com/components/gallery/?gallery=\land-rover-bits\locking
>
> these locking nuts are the splined type with three 'flats'. Spline
> count between the flats is 4/5/5
>
> failing that, I can get them off using the old-fashioned
> brute-force-and-ignorance techniques - doubt they'll be in any fit
> state to go back on, so a new set of locking nuts and key perhaps?
>
> last option I guess would be a few extra wheel nuts.
>
> do let me know if further info is required. I've tried the local Land
> Rover parts departmnent - these locking nuts do not appear to be a L/R
> fitment. I hope somebody recognises them.
>
> Thanks for reading.

I guess you've checked all the usually hiding holes and the bottom of the
jack handle bag, seat pockets and under the seats at the front.

Could be worth a trip down to the local tyre fitters they would have them
off in no time for the cost of a beer I'd guess.. oh and don't forget to
check the spare (visions of order to Richard for new wheel carrier - they
all do that!).

You doing the unofficial?

Lee D

>failing that, I can get them off using the old-fashioned
>brute-force-and-ignorance techniques - doubt they'll be in any fit state
>To go back on, so a new set of locking nuts and key perhaps?

Are these any good to you?

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/sea...charset=UTF-8&howMany=15&searchText=wheel+nut

"Buzby" wrote...
> >failing that, I can get them off using the old-fashioned
> >brute-force-and-ignorance techniques - doubt they'll be in any fit state
> >To go back on, so a new set of locking nuts and key perhaps?
>
> Are these any good to you?
>
> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/sea...charset=UTF-8&howMany=15&searchText=wheel+nut

Bl**dy hell, so what's the point of locking wheel nuts then!?

--
Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:49:00 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>
> "William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> http://williamtasso.com/components/gallery/?gallery=\land-rover-bits\locking
>>
>> these locking nuts are the splined type with three 'flats'. Spline
>> count
>> between the flats is 4/5/5
>> ...
>> I hope somebody recognises them.
>
> They look very much like Britpart - but the ones on the shelf
> here are 3/4/5 splines - I've never looked, but I suspect the
> spline count is randomised as they are supplied under one
> part number.

ahh - thanks for the heads-up Richard.

Do the sets you have contain 5 locking nuts and the bling bling shiny
covers?

Any alternatives?

What's the cost (including delivery & Tony Blair's beer money)?

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:56:07 +0100, Lee_D
<[email protected]> wrote:

> William Tasso <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>> Greetings One & All
>>
>> Vehicle: late 'M' reg Discovery ('95 I think that is)
>> Wheels are Alloy
>>
>> Some may recall I don't have the key for the locking wheel nuts - not
>> yet losing sleep over this but I do have a couple of jobs to do, so
>> ...
> I guess you've checked all the usually hiding holes and the bottom of the
> jack handle bag, seat pockets and under the seats at the front.

Each nook and every last crannie has been probed - yes, the jack handle
bag is present, the jack is apparently awol, hiding with the locking nut
key no doubt.

> Could be worth a trip down to the local tyre fitters they would have them
> off in no time for the cost of a beer I'd guess..

not any more - ATS won't touch 'em - and this is not the first time I've
heard of tyre fitters getting shy. Only takes one idiot to whinge about
scuff damage on their alloys and now the boys aren't allowed to help. I'm
lead to believe that a cold chisel is the prefered removal tool among
those with a more pragmatic approach.

> oh and don't forget to
> check the spare (visions of order to Richard for new wheel carrier - they
> all do that!).

ok - good point - yep, there's a locking thingie on the spare too.

> You doing the unofficial?

I'm afraid I have to remain one of those awkward b*ggers and defer that
decision until the week before. If that means all the
accomodation/camping slots are taken then so be it. That said, I'm hoping
to make it baring fire or flood catastrophe between now and then. Either
vehicle should be up to the trip, though neither is really fettled for
off-roading at present - getting there (slowly).

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:02:01 +0100, Buzby <[email protected]> wrote:

>> failing that, I can get them off using the old-fashioned
>> brute-force-and-ignorance techniques - doubt they'll be in any fit state
>> To go back on, so a new set of locking nuts and key perhaps?
>
> Are these any good to you?
>
> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/sea...charset=UTF-8&howMany=15&searchText=wheel+nut

Oddly that link doesn't work in Opera.

Looks like a useful product - wonder if my name will be added to a list of
serious wheel nicking villains if I order one

At the price it seems worth a punt.
--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:54:55 +0100, Bob Hobden <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Buzby" wrote...
>> >failing that, I can get them off using the old-fashioned
>> >brute-force-and-ignorance techniques - doubt they'll be in any fit
>> state
>> >To go back on, so a new set of locking nuts and key perhaps?
>>
>> Are these any good to you?
>>
>> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/sea...charset=UTF-8&howMany=15&searchText=wheel+nut
>
> Bl**dy hell, so what's the point of locking wheel nuts then!?

oh - there's more ...

http://www.toolsinstock.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=13286
http://www.toolsinstock.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=13631
http://www.toolsinstock.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=13725

seems you pays yer money and takes yer choice.
--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

In message <[email protected]>
"William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:49:00 +0100, beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In message <[email protected]>
> > "William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://williamtasso.com/components/gallery/?gallery=\land-rover-bits\locking
> >>
> >> these locking nuts are the splined type with three 'flats'. Spline
> >> count
> >> between the flats is 4/5/5
> >> ...
> >> I hope somebody recognises them.
> >
> > They look very much like Britpart - but the ones on the shelf
> > here are 3/4/5 splines - I've never looked, but I suspect the
> > spline count is randomised as they are supplied under one
> > part number.
>
> ahh - thanks for the heads-up Richard.
>
> Do the sets you have contain 5 locking nuts and the bling bling shiny
> covers?

It does - you could deliver curries with these on....

STC8843AA Locking Wheel Nut Set (5) - OEM Alloy Wheels (Not Deep Dish)
£34.07 inc VAT

£4.75 for next day courier.

>
> Any alternatives?

Geunine Parts - £51.00 plus VAT

>
> What's the cost (including delivery & Tony Blair's beer money)?
>

Richard

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William Tasso <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:

> Each nook and every last crannie has been probed - yes, the jack
> handle bag is present, the jack is apparently awol, hiding with the
> locking nut key no doubt.


I've a vague recollection of a thread on this but in a nut shell ours is by
the air intake under the tyre wedge.

>> You doing the unofficial?
>
> I'm afraid I have to remain one of those awkward b*ggers and defer
> that decision until the week before. If that means all the
> accomodation/camping slots are taken then so be it. That said, I'm
> hoping to make it baring fire or flood catastrophe between now and
> then. Either vehicle should be up to the trip, though neither is
> really fettled for off-roading at present - getting there (slowly).

No sweat, I'd imagine there would be spaces on the site if last Octobers
unofficial is owt to go by, It's pretty much the last camping weekend of the
year in most peoples diarys.

Lee D

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:19:53 +0100, Lee_D
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ...
> I'd imagine there would be spaces on the site if last Octobers
> unofficial is owt to go by, It's pretty much the last camping weekend of
> the
> year in most peoples diarys.

No kiddin' - I just looked it up

o That weekend marks the end of British Summer Time.
o Anglesea is almost 300 miles from here (by road).

using a combination of half learned formulae and pub math approximations I
reckon Anglesea to be roughly 180 miles more north than here so probably
on average about 2 degrees colder.

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

William Tasso <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:19:53 +0100, Lee_D
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> I'd imagine there would be spaces on the site if last Octobers
>> unofficial is owt to go by, It's pretty much the last camping
>> weekend of the
>> year in most peoples diarys.
>
> No kiddin' - I just looked it up
>
> o That weekend marks the end of British Summer Time.
> o Anglesea is almost 300 miles from here (by road).
>
> using a combination of half learned formulae and pub math
> approximations I reckon Anglesea to be roughly 180 miles more north
> than here so probably on average about 2 degrees colder.

We can only pray the weather is like last year, but theres a pub/Inn The
electric mountain tour is as I understand inside a mountain and whats off
roading without a bit of water and at least there won't be a zillion
gates to open like the last greenlane trip we did.

Images of last Octobers do..
http://www.101fc.net/unofficial-wales-2005/index.htm

Lee D

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:59:16 +0100, Lee_D
<[email protected]> wrote:

> William Tasso <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:19:53 +0100, Lee_D
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> I'd imagine there would be spaces on the site if last Octobers
>>> unofficial is owt to go by, It's pretty much the last camping
>>> weekend of the
>>> year in most peoples diarys.
>>
>> No kiddin' - I just looked it up
>>
>> o That weekend marks the end of British Summer Time.
>> o Anglesea is almost 300 miles from here (by road).
>>
>> using a combination of half learned formulae and pub math
>> approximations I reckon Anglesea to be roughly 180 miles more north
>> than here so probably on average about 2 degrees colder.
>
> We can only pray the weather is like last year, but theres a pub/Inn

but, of course

The weekend nicely coincides with the end of half term - pity it's not the
beginning. It's easier to take a leisurely drive on the homeward journey.

> The
> electric mountain tour is as I understand inside a mountain

This is a driving tour?

> and whats off
> roading without a bit of water and at least there won't be a zillion
> gates to open like the last greenlane trip we did.

heh - sounds like I'll need some more suitable rubber.

> Images of last Octobers do..
> http://www.101fc.net/unofficial-wales-2005/index.htm

splendid - I even recognise some (at least one) of those vehicles

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:26:33 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ...
> you could deliver curries with these on....
>
> STC8843AA Locking Wheel Nut Set (5) - OEM Alloy Wheels (Not Deep Dish)
> £34.07 inc VAT
> £4.75 for next day courier.

ok - spoke to the nice man @ Britpart - guess what, the key is available
..... if you have the key number, which is stamped on the key - nice
Catch-22

Can you supply a set of STC8843AA? Thanks.

Also, while we're here ...

The diddy threaded bracket/plate thingy (4 off) with two holes that goes
on/in the 110 rear crossmember to bolt grab-handle/bumperettes to. As
well as the necessary bolts/washers.

Plain wheel nut for alloy wheels on the 110 (two off)

and ....

Can you get a price for ANR5307MNH ?

You have my contact details for sorting payment stuff.

Cheers
--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

In message <[email protected]>
"William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:26:33 +0100, beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ...
> > you could deliver curries with these on....
> >
> > STC8843AA Locking Wheel Nut Set (5) - OEM Alloy Wheels (Not Deep Dish)
> > £34.07 inc VAT
> > £4.75 for next day courier.
>
> ok - spoke to the nice man @ Britpart - guess what, the key is available
> .... if you have the key number, which is stamped on the key - nice
> Catch-22
>
> Can you supply a set of STC8843AA? Thanks.
>
> Also, while we're here ...
>
> The diddy threaded bracket/plate thingy (4 off) with two holes that goes
> on/in the 110 rear crossmember to bolt grab-handle/bumperettes to. As
> well as the necessary bolts/washers.
>
> Plain wheel nut for alloy wheels on the 110 (two off)
>
> and ....
>
> Can you get a price for ANR5307MNH ?
>
> You have my contact details for sorting payment stuff.
>
> Cheers

Can you send a mail - your details have expired.....

Cheers
Richard
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www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine
Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive

In message <[email protected]>
"William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:26:33 +0100, beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ...
> > you could deliver curries with these on....
> >
> > STC8843AA Locking Wheel Nut Set (5) - OEM Alloy Wheels (Not Deep Dish)
> > £34.07 inc VAT
> > £4.75 for next day courier.
>
> ok - spoke to the nice man @ Britpart - guess what, the key is available
> .... if you have the key number, which is stamped on the key - nice
> Catch-22

Only for Genuine Parts ones, their own have no letter code, or
part number.

>
> Can you supply a set of STC8843AA? Thanks.

Yep.

>
> Also, while we're here ...
>
> The diddy threaded bracket/plate thingy (4 off) with two holes that goes
> on/in the 110 rear crossmember to bolt grab-handle/bumperettes to. As
> well as the necessary bolts/washers.

In stock.

>
> Plain wheel nut for alloy wheels on the 110 (two off)

In stock

>
> and ....
>
> Can you get a price for ANR5307MNH ?
>

ANR5307MNH Wheel Rim - Alloy - 7.0 x 16 - Tornado Silver Sparkle -
Defender 90 from TA998910 - Britpart Brand.

> You have my contact details for sorting payment stuff.

Will mail a quote.

>
> Cheers

Richard

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:24:47 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ...
> Can you send a mail - your details have expired.....

maybe I don't really exist - after all, this is usenet

/mail sent

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

On or around Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:07:39 +0100, "William Tasso"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I'm
>lead to believe that a cold chisel is the prefered removal tool among
>those with a more pragmatic approach.

weld a nut onto the top of it.

You do definitely have to replace 'em afterwards, though.
--
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"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:03:14 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>
> "William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ...
>> Also, while we're here ...
>>
>> The diddy threaded bracket/plate thingy (4 off) with two holes that goes
>> on/in the 110 rear crossmember to bolt grab-handle/bumperettes to. As
>> well as the necessary bolts/washers.
>
>> You have my contact details for sorting payment stuff.
>
> Will mail a quote.

Thanks - stuff arrived today.

Anyone know the thread used in the 'NRC5804 Nut Plate - Rear Grab Handles
Defender'? Looks as though it may be an M8.

For those interested (and perhaps reading this in the archive) the
Emergency Locking Wheel Nut Remover Kit also arrived from Screwfix today.
Select the right size - the largest one is needed for Defender/Discovery.
The unit has an internal reverse thread - you wind it on till the
resistance to cutting more thread is greater than the reluctance to turn -
and away she comes and you can fit your new locking or plain wheel nut.
That was the easy bit. Now you have to get the remover tool removed from
the old locking wheel nut - you will need a good vice that is bolted to
the planet - also advise you have a longish breaker bar to hand. Don't
forget the reverse thread. Rinse & repeat till all wheels done.

That's all folks.
--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8