Veggie oil

paulinmyhairout said:

The difference between force filtered oil and bio diesel is like black and white

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i suspect thats a rumor put about by peeps who make money out of selling "bio diesel"

but hey what do i know .........

try this Biofuels Library - Journey to Forever

Sean said:

i suspect thats a rumor put about by peeps who make money out of selling "bio diesel"

but hey what do i know .........

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i wasn't selling bio just making it for myself and the police was investigating me for months after my little mishap !

Sean said:

have you physically seen any of the issues you mention, that are proven to have occurred as a result of using filtered WVO or SVO ?

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Personally no-but I talk with guys who deal with ring gumming regularly (compression loss) they get round it ,injecting water as a mist into the inlet while thrashing down the motorway-50 mile run seems to be pretty standard-some use a converted house hold spray bottle with water in it-have a read:www.[B]vegetableoildiesel.co.uk[/B]
But as I said earlier,land rovers do seem particularly tolerant of wvo/svo compared to other vehicles

fanatic said:

try this Biofuels Library - Journey to Forever

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been there done that 4/5 years ago, installed a good few twin tanks/pre heated systems - concluded it's more cost effective to force filter and use it neat, and mix with petrol when it's chilly

saves explaining to Doris that you've destroyed the house again

biolandy said:

Personally no-but I talk with guys who deal with ring gumming regularly (compression loss) they get round it ,injecting water as a mist into the inlet while thrashing down the motorway-50 mile run seems to be pretty standard-some use a converted house hold spray bottle with water in it-have a read:www.[B]vegetableoildiesel.co.uk[/B]
But as I said earlier,land rovers do seem particularly tolerant of wvo/svo compared to other vehicles

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there is a company in Germany that converts vw's for years.
compensating injector pressure to different viscosity of svo should give same spray pattern as straight diesel.

paulinmyhairout said:

it was a full propper rig out, sealed motor the real deal. i had just switched everything off to settle and went for a cuppa. dont no what caused the spark but it could only be the fumes of the costic soda and methanol mix that made the big bang. i was only making 100ltr mix and had been doing it for nearly 2 years, after seing the damage it does when it goes wrong i would say keep away, its not worth your life or some one elses ! but saying that my disco used to go like **** off a stick.

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You must have had a source of ignition-possibly static-it is very important to make sure all equipment is grounded-you must have also have had enough vapour to support combustion-I run a fan continuously with shed door open during processing-I can never smell methanol vapour during my process-nor do I handle the methanol directly-my methoxide is sucked in,so no pouring etc.I am very mindful of the risks,and this is why the brewing shed is 80ft from the house-my main problem is rats chewing holes in oil and fuel containers-but they did eat some byproduct one day and got a result 3 dead rats.

biolandy said:

You must have had a source of ignition-possibly static-it is very important to make sure all equipment is grounded-you must have also have had enough vapour to support combustion-I run a fan continuously with shed door open during processing-I can never smell methanol vapour during my process-nor do I handle the methanol directly-my methoxide is sucked in,so no pouring etc.I am very mindful of the risks,and this is why the brewing shed is 80ft from the house-my main problem is rats chewing holes in oil and fuel containers-but they did eat some byproduct one day and got a result 3 dead rats.

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are you a registered producer ?

No just a home brewer,but I take it seriously and try to make the best fuel I can,to try and avoid some of the issues others suffer from-I also try to do things as safely as I can-if I felt what I was doing was too risky I would stop

Sean said:

are you a registered producer ?

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i was not a reg customer but was not making enough to be regd, 2500 ltrs a year, one mistake or fault boom !

biolandy said:

No just a home brewer,but I take it seriously and try to make the best fuel I can,to try and avoid some of the issues others suffer from-I also try to do things as safely as I can-if I felt what I was doing was too risky I would stop

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ive had a few too whiskeys 2night to talk propper, if u want to talk more al b back 2morro.

One other point of interest,with my byproduct which is waste-I mix it with chainsaw dust and run it thru my woodburner burns very hot,this can obviously be done with waste veg oil dregs as well-great free fuel

paulinmyhairout said:

ive had a few too whiskeys 2night to talk propper, if u want to talk more al b back 2morro.

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Ok mate -very sorry to hear of your boom-be good to talk more to try and understand what led up to it-and what can be done to avoid repeating it

I tried adding the 2 ltrs petrol to the 30 ltrs deisel and 21 ltrs rapeseed oil. It started fine , drove round corner and it juddered like it was going to stall but didn,t. I took it for a spin and it went like **** of a stick ! Once the turbo spins you can really feel it pull ! Have to drive with a light foot or I,ll be getting me collar felt. I did about 20 miles over hill and dale ,no problems .When I got back I stopped at the shops turned ignition off for five mins.Started ,drove round corner , started to judder again Ill have to see how it goes tommorow. Maybe I need to add a bit more petrol ?

When did you last change your fuel filter,or is air getting in somewhere?

Done about six k since I last changed it so its about service time. Like I said its pulling like a train when its running.

biolandy said:

One other point of interest,with my byproduct which is waste-I mix it with chainsaw dust and run it thru my woodburner burns very hot,this can obviously be done with waste veg oil dregs as well-great free fuel

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i take it you've not got any neighbors close by

burns clean with no issue as long as air vents are full open and fire is good and hot to start with

biolandy said:

burns clean with no issue as long as air vents are full open and fire is good and hot to start with

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"no issues" ? - you sure ........

http://www.biofuelwatch.org.uk/docs/vegetable_oil_burning_and_public_health.pdf

Valid point Sean,and interesting reading,seems very recent research-I only burn the byproduct (which can emit acrolin if not fully combusted-nasty irritant)I mix well with sawdust-then only introduce house brick size chunk to the fire that is already very hot and make sure all vents are fully open to ensure max oxygen available-not smelt anything nasty-will have to get on my roof and recheck-neighbours both sides have not said anything,and one of them gives me oil.Only use it for a winter "boost" makes fire too hot for regular use.