V8 gearbox...

Ok, have fitted an R380 and new transfer box to my 110 V8. I've had fun
with getting it all lined up, and more fun making the linkages work. Now
the problem is that I can't make the new clutch work properly. I asked
abouit a specific clutch slave cylinder yesterday, and now have another
question.
Does anyone know if, under the above circumstances, a distance piece
between the slave cylinder and bellhousing is required? (part number:-
FRC2402.
This has arisen because I've not been able to get the clutch tpo
operate fully, i.e. I can either have it not able to go into gear, or
not able to completely engage. This leads me to believe that the range
of adjustment within the cylinder's operating range is wrong, hence the
question :0)

`Mark

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Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok, have fitted an R380 and new transfer box to my 110 V8. I've had fun
> with getting it all lined up, and more fun making the linkages work. Now
> the problem is that I can't make the new clutch work properly. I asked
> abouit a specific clutch slave cylinder yesterday, and now have another
> question.
> Does anyone know if, under the above circumstances, a distance piece
> between the slave cylinder and bellhousing is required? (part number:-
> FRC2402.
> This has arisen because I've not been able to get the clutch tpo
> operate fully, i.e. I can either have it not able to go into gear, or
> not able to completely engage. This leads me to believe that the range
> of adjustment within the cylinder's operating range is wrong, hence the
> question :0)
>
> `Mark

As I understand it from you other thread, you are trying to use the
V8/4-Speed slave cylinder, which is not the same as the R380 one.

Since the arm is the same in both, I'd hazzard a guess that using
the R380 one may do the job.

Richard
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beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Ok, have fitted an R380 and new transfer box to my 110 V8. I've had fun
>>with getting it all lined up, and more fun making the linkages work. Now
>>the problem is that I can't make the new clutch work properly. I asked
>>abouit a specific clutch slave cylinder yesterday, and now have another
>>question.
>> Does anyone know if, under the above circumstances, a distance piece
>>between the slave cylinder and bellhousing is required? (part number:-
>>FRC2402.
>> This has arisen because I've not been able to get the clutch tpo
>>operate fully, i.e. I can either have it not able to go into gear, or
>>not able to completely engage. This leads me to believe that the range
>>of adjustment within the cylinder's operating range is wrong, hence the
>>question :0)
>>
>>`Mark
>
>
> As I understand it from you other thread, you are trying to use the
> V8/4-Speed slave cylinder, which is not the same as the R380 one.
>
> Since the arm is the same in both, I'd hazzard a guess that using
> the R380 one may do the job.
>
> Richard
Not quite, they both are for 5 speed's as far as I am aware, or maybe
aren't, and were mistakenly fitted origonally, but made to work. The
opinions I've had so far range from 'need the right cylinder' to
'happens occasionally when you change so much at once, clutch geometry
is different now, innit'. There's seems to be a choice of about 3million
different combo's, hence the question about spacers and things...
By the way, have you got an FTC5071 in stock? And if so, can you tell
me if the bore is 1", and the hydraulic union is a 5/16 UNF thread?
Should save me having yet another slave cylinder on the shelf....


Thanks,

`Mark

In message <[email protected]>
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

> beamendsltd wrote:
> > In message <[email protected]>
> > Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Ok, have fitted an R380 and new transfer box to my 110 V8. I've had fun
> >>with getting it all lined up, and more fun making the linkages work. Now
> >>the problem is that I can't make the new clutch work properly. I asked
> >>abouit a specific clutch slave cylinder yesterday, and now have another
> >>question.
> >> Does anyone know if, under the above circumstances, a distance piece
> >>between the slave cylinder and bellhousing is required? (part number:-
> >>FRC2402.
> >> This has arisen because I've not been able to get the clutch tpo
> >>operate fully, i.e. I can either have it not able to go into gear, or
> >>not able to completely engage. This leads me to believe that the range
> >>of adjustment within the cylinder's operating range is wrong, hence the
> >>question :0)
> >>
> >>`Mark
> >
> >
> > As I understand it from you other thread, you are trying to use the
> > V8/4-Speed slave cylinder, which is not the same as the R380 one.
> >
> > Since the arm is the same in both, I'd hazzard a guess that using
> > the R380 one may do the job.
> >
> > Richard
> Not quite, they both are for 5 speed's as far as I am aware, or maybe
> aren't, and were mistakenly fitted origonally, but made to work. The
> opinions I've had so far range from 'need the right cylinder' to
> 'happens occasionally when you change so much at once, clutch geometry
> is different now, innit'. There's seems to be a choice of about 3million
> different combo's, hence the question about spacers and things...
> By the way, have you got an FTC5071 in stock? And if so, can you tell
> me if the bore is 1", and the hydraulic union is a 5/16 UNF thread?
> Should save me having yet another slave cylinder on the shelf....
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> `Mark

So was the original box an LT77 - Slave cylinder 591231? That would
still be different to the R380 (totally different clutch arm).

I'll dig them out and have a measure up later - but I think the differing
positon of the bolt hole "ears" may be the culprit.

Richard
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beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>beamendsltd wrote:
>>
>>>In message <[email protected]>
>>> Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok, have fitted an R380 and new transfer box to my 110 V8. I've had fun
>>>>with getting it all lined up, and more fun making the linkages work. Now
>>>>the problem is that I can't make the new clutch work properly. I asked
>>>>abouit a specific clutch slave cylinder yesterday, and now have another
>>>>question.
>>>> Does anyone know if, under the above circumstances, a distance piece
>>>>between the slave cylinder and bellhousing is required? (part number:-
>>>>FRC2402.
>>>> This has arisen because I've not been able to get the clutch tpo
>>>>operate fully, i.e. I can either have it not able to go into gear, or
>>>>not able to completely engage. This leads me to believe that the range
>>>>of adjustment within the cylinder's operating range is wrong, hence the
>>>>question :0)
>>>>
>>>>`Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>As I understand it from you other thread, you are trying to use the
>>>V8/4-Speed slave cylinder, which is not the same as the R380 one.
>>>
>>>Since the arm is the same in both, I'd hazzard a guess that using
>>>the R380 one may do the job.
>>>
>>>Richard
>>
>>Not quite, they both are for 5 speed's as far as I am aware, or maybe
>>aren't, and were mistakenly fitted origonally, but made to work. The
>>opinions I've had so far range from 'need the right cylinder' to
>>'happens occasionally when you change so much at once, clutch geometry
>>is different now, innit'. There's seems to be a choice of about 3million
>>different combo's, hence the question about spacers and things...
>> By the way, have you got an FTC5071 in stock? And if so, can you tell
>>me if the bore is 1", and the hydraulic union is a 5/16 UNF thread?
>>Should save me having yet another slave cylinder on the shelf....
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>`Mark
>
>
> So was the original box an LT77 - Slave cylinder 591231? That would
> still be different to the R380 (totally different clutch arm).
>
> I'll dig them out and have a measure up later - but I think the differing
> positon of the bolt hole "ears" may be the culprit.
>
> Richard
Nope, was an LT85, the Santana split-case one. Flanges all mate, bolts
go in fine, you puit it all together, it starts, then you test, and get
a top speed of 10mph :0(
I have learned more wierd landrover lore in the last couple of years
than I ever thought possible/necessary/safe for my sanity, oh, hold on,
I wn a landy, silly me :0)
Cheers Rich, it would be good to find out...

`Mark