Hi again and thanks for all the advise so far. Ok the car isnt as bad as it was. What happens now is:I put in the key code at the drivers door and it will start. I can leave it for 20 mins ish and the car will still start but if I leave it any longer I have to pt the key code in again. The key fob is not programed to the car yet as I am afraid if I start playing about with that it will cause more problems. Do I put the key code in first? Then try and sync the key fob, or is it the other way around? I can only guess its not holding the code but I dont know where or what stores the code. It must be that part thats faulty. Or are the key fob sync and the key code part of the same thing:doh: I dont have a clue!! But like I said before I have a complete RR exactly the same as mine with a dead engine so spare bits and pieces I can swap around. But what bits do I swap?? Thanks again to any one that can help.... Its a1995 RR 4.6 HSE