P38A Tuning the 4.0 thor

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Yes the tornado chip is the only 'tune' I'm aware of. As far as i know it's not possible to hack the EEPROM. Otherwise Tornado would have done that.
Agree.
But aftermarket ECUs with tuning are available, at ££££££
At 100k+ miles the original cam will be worn, it might last 500 miles or might last another 30k.. who knows until you have a problem

Who knows until you check? if it was a well looked after car it could be fine.

J
 
Who knows until you check? if it was a well looked after car it could be fine.
you can measure compression and valve lift, but even that doesnt tell you the state of the surface of the cams, or if the lifters are turning properly.
if its been looked after then its probably been fed 10W40 fully synth.. which isnt good for flat tappets, generally doesnt have the required high pressure film strength which is why we see them wearing out
 
Yes the tornado chip is the only 'tune' I'm aware of. As far as i know it's not possible to hack the EEPROM. Otherwise Tornado would have done that.
At 100k+ miles the original cam will be worn, it might last 500 miles or might last another 30k.. who knows until you have a problem
It's not an EEPROM I suspect, it's actually a one time programmable ROM so cannot be altered.
 
You sound like you are jumping in before knowing TBH.
Cam lift can be easliy checked with the right equip and just removing the rocker covers.
If its worn then fine change it. Its a lot of work.

As for tuning the ECU as far as I am aware thats not possible without changing the chips and even then its a set map, or an aftermarket ECU. So would be interested to know if anybody could actually "hack" into the ECU and change settings, gearbox tuning?
I would suggest you have a talk with these people who say they can, and find out how they will empty your wallet;).

J
The website is tuners garage, if anyone wants to dive into this a little deeper.

in terms of checking cam lift , how is that done ? I have heard of using some metal in between the cam lifters,
 
The website is tuners garage, if anyone wants to dive into this a little deeper.

in terms of checking cam lift , how is that done ? I have heard of using some metal in between the cam lifters,
So please post a link, as I can only find a Turners Garage that claim to be able to do it https://www.turners-garage.com/index.php/range-rover/wolds-leading-p38-specialists

As for cam lift, a dial gauge with clamp base would work, mag base would be difficult on a mostly Ali engine.

J
 
So please post a link, as I can only find a Turners Garage that claim to be able to do it https://www.turners-garage.com/index.php/range-rover/wolds-leading-p38-specialists

As for cam lift, a dial gauge with clamp base would work, mag base would be difficult on a mostly Ali engine.

J
Don't think a home amateur mechanic is going to easily or reliably measure cam wear tbh. And it won't tell you the state of the lifters.

And even if in perfect condition, an aftermarket cam is going to offer more performance......
 
Don't think a home amateur mechanic is going to easily or reliably measure cam wear tbh. And it won't tell you the state of the lifters.

And even if in perfect condition, an aftermarket cam is going to offer more performance......
I think you can.
Lifters are a different issue.

I never said a different cam would be good or bad, did I?

J
 
My dad told me about a company called tuners garage , they apparently specialise in the P38, can do ECU and gearbox tuning.

Turners. Don't think they're as well thought of as they used to be. V8 Developments might be worth a look.

Changing the cam is the first job. Easy enough to do if you follow RAVE. After that you can get someone to play with the ECU but think about what characteristics you want in both high and low range and how much fuel you want to burn.
 
Yes the tornado chip is the only 'tune' I'm aware of. As far as i know it's not possible to hack the EEPROM. Otherwise Tornado would have done that.
At 100k+ miles the original cam will be worn, it might last 500 miles or might last another 30k.. who knows until you have a problem

You could put Megasquirt or similar on it and then map whatever you want but it is an awful lot of messing about for a brick of a car.

As you said, there are a few off the shelf cams available that would do the job.
 
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