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Richard Brookman wrote:
> The speed camera database is great. It warned me of the faint
> possibility of a camera at the site where I got done last year. And
> that's a mobile, not a fixed site. The "bing-bong" as you approach
> is great, but a voice saying "slow down you fat f*cker" might be more
> appropriate.

Ah but we have voice files too :) See:
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/tomtom-poi-alerts.php

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Tim Hobbs wrote:
> Another mystery solved!
>
> It is dead good, but there is the same weakness as in the Traffic
> Master system I had years ago. Not all the roads are covered, so the
> sat nav will tend to divert you off the motorway onto minor roads,
> only to find that those minor roads are stuffed worse than the
> motorway you were previously on. I wonder the source data comes from
> - is it just the traffic sensors or are police sources and 'phone in'
> data added in as well?

It's sourced from a range of feeds including road side sensors, vehicle
fleets equipped with transponders e.g. National Express coaches and Eddie
Stobart to name a few but it's still patchy and not always accurate enough
to be relied upon.
http://www.itisholdings.com/itmc.asp

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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> Sounds like it, although I seem to be suffering from acronymaphobia at
> the moment, IYSWIM.
>
> Whatever I meant, it was certainly using FM and RDS-like encoding so I
> suspect you've hit the nail on the head.
>
>> We haven't had a TMC receiver to test yet but having used other
>> systems that use RDS TMC the results are OK. However the quality of
>> the UK's TMC data is still very variable but that's down to the data
>> providers iTIS.
>
> I'd heard hints that the system was technically working but wasn't
> much use in this country as the data wasn't much good, I hope that
> improves soon. I was searching for a cheap head unit that could
> display the data but gave up when I kept reading that it's not very
> accurate anyway.
>
> Having to mess about with the mobile and bluetooth to get traffic data
> isn't something I want to do as I wouldn't bother on every journey,
> and as far as I'm concerned a traffic warning system isn't any use if
> you have to set the darned thing up before every trip.

You need a better mobile then ;) My Motorola can happily negotiate a
connection with my GO for the data feed for TMC whilst still being able to
manage another bluetooth connection for handsfree voice. It's automatic too
so long as Bluetooth is switch on.

> Plus of course not being able to use bluetooth for the mobile for
> anything else while the sat nav is using it.

Typically, here in the UK it's been a monopoly held by iTIS for a number of
years (http://www.itisholdings.com/itmc.asp) although RAC/TrafficMaster won
a licence recently. The data is rather expensive to licence whereas on the
Continent there are free Government supplied feeds as well as other
commercial services which gives both choice and greater coverage and
accuracy.



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On 2006-05-03, Dave Liquorice <[email protected]> wrote:

> TrafficMaster YQ or their SmartNav thing but probably fails at the
> "cheap" requirement. I'd like a satnav but given the choice between a TM
> YQ or satnav the YQ would win.

Printed maps versus satnav? No thanks ;-) I've used satnav loads of
times to do things like jump from one auto factors to another, I drive
to the first one, then if they don't have the parts I get the address
of the next and navigate to that and so on.

Also Trafficmaster is very far from perfect, there were delays on the
A303 near me during the winter that resulted in people being stuck in
their cars in the snow on a major road for an entire night, but
trafficmaster's website (I have an account) never showed it. They do
an SMS alerting service that I subscribe to but despite its alerts
covering some known traffic blackspots that I used to travel through,
I rarely get alerts even when I know that the road has very long
delays on it. They do have their cameras on the section in question
too.

The following link is much better, and is free;

http://www.highways.gov.uk/trafficinfo/

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> Indeed they are! The new GO x10 range is even better with a widescreen,
> true speech and iPod Support.

Tell me more about the iPod support!

I've had 3 GPS systems and IMHO I've never found a better solution
than a simple sense of direction and a Multimap printout! But
I would be interested in something that might connect to my
iPod as my vehicle's stereo cannot be removed, and cannot support
an iPod!

Matt.
 
On Wed, 3 May 2006 10:23:45 +0100, Ian Rawlings wrote:

> Also Trafficmaster is very far from perfect, there were delays on the
> A303 near me during the winter that resulted in people being stuck in
> their cars in the snow on a major road for an entire night,

Ah the silly people who go out in bad conditions in inappropiate vehicles
(not landies...) then winge about getting stuck. B-)

TM has always had a problem when traffic becomes totaly stationary for a
long period. This is fairly rare though.

> http://www.highways.gov.uk/trafficinfo/

Looks reasonable but the times I driven past those traffic information
signs that aren't telling the truth is far more often than non reported
stuff from TM. Last Friday the RDS traffic report was actually accurate
for once, mind you they had had several hours during the day to find out
about it. I'd still been on the road over an hour and being stuck in the
tail back for 15mins before I heard it though.

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On 2006-05-03, Dave Liquorice <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ah the silly people who go out in bad conditions in inappropiate
> vehicles (not landies...) then winge about getting stuck. B-)

I'll bet you there were landies stuck in the snow as well. Until it
becomes legal to drive landies over people in crap cars, we'll always
be stuck behind those who aren't prepared.

In the case near me that I was talking about, it wasn't just a few
cars, it was several miles of tailback on a dual carriageway, quite
why the police couldn't have closed the road upstream of the tail end
of the queue and turned everyone around I don't know. It seems that
ferrying people to local school halls to spend the night was easier.
Chances are though after the snow that was coming down, they'd
probably have just ended up with the jam being in both directions!
Not to mention people just crashing into each other again, hmm on
second thoughts perhaps getting them to kip down in school halls was
the best idea.. They ferried people out in 4x4s though so it can't
have been that bad.

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Matthew Maddock wrote:
> Tell me more about the iPod support!
>
> I've had 3 GPS systems and IMHO I've never found a better solution
> than a simple sense of direction and a Multimap printout! But
> I would be interested in something that might connect to my
> iPod as my vehicle's stereo cannot be removed, and cannot support
> an iPod!
>
> Matt.

GO 910 only at the mo, but hook up an iPod and you can access all the music
from the GO's display (and remote) and play as you would normally. Playing
through the GO's speakersisn't recommended but it will interface with the
car's HiFi if you purchase the carkit or a soon to be announced Bluetooth
Interface Kit for suitably equipped vehicles.

Naturally the iPod mutes when Nav instructions are played etc.

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On 2006-05-03, Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> wrote:

> iPod as my vehicle's stereo cannot be removed, and cannot support
> an iPod!

If your stereo has CD changer support, you can normally get converter
leads to give you an aux in which you can then connect to the ipod,
that's what I did. Failing that, a tape adapter or an FM radio
transmitter for the ipod (technically illegal I think).

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> If your stereo has CD changer support, you can normally get converter
> leads to give you an aux in which you can then connect to the ipod,
> that's what I did. Failing that, a tape adapter or an FM radio
> transmitter for the ipod (technically illegal I think).

I've got one of those tape things, but it is pretty crap and the
battery in the iPod leaves something to be desired when you do
long trips!

It has a changer in the back, but I've not been able to find any sort
of adapter, and the car doesn't have a head unit as such that I can
take out and hack into!

Cheers anyway

Matt
 
On 2006-05-03, Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've got one of those tape things, but it is pretty crap and the
> battery in the iPod leaves something to be desired when you do
> long trips!

You can power the ipod from the cigarette socket using common ipod
accessories, and also take the line out from them too to get slightly
better quality sound. I've never tried one of those tape things but
I've been told the FM transmitters can be good.

> It has a changer in the back, but I've not been able to find any sort
> of adapter, and the car doesn't have a head unit as such that I can
> take out and hack into!

Try taking it to an independent car audio shop (i.e. not Halfords) and
talk to them about it, I'd be surprised if it's not do-able. You can
dump the changer once you've got the ipod connected, most decent car
audio places I've spoken to don't even recommend changers any more
although they'll sell you one if you really want it, normally an MP3
player is recommended so they should be up to speed on connecting them.

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> Try taking it to an independent car audio shop (i.e. not Halfords) and
> talk to them about it, I'd be surprised if it's not do-able. You can
> dump the changer once you've got the ipod connected, most decent car
> audio places I've spoken to don't even recommend changers any more
> although they'll sell you one if you really want it, normally an MP3
> player is recommended so they should be up to speed on connecting them.

I'll give that a go. I've just been Googling so far, I can usually find
the info on the Internet if something is do-able!

The changer in the car is total crap, it jumps constantly - particularly
on the French rural roads! so I'd be more than happy to dump it. The
only problem I can see (if it was possible) is routing the cables back
to the front to allow the iPod to be connected. As I understand it, the
actual stereo unit is buried somewhere in the middle of the car!

Matt.
 
On 2006-05-03, Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> wrote:

> The only problem I can see (if it was possible) is routing the
> cables back to the front to allow the iPod to be connected. As I
> understand it, the actual stereo unit is buried somewhere in the
> middle of the car!

It's unlikely to have the cable wired directly into the back of the
head unit then running all the way up the length of the car, that
would make it a PITA to fit the dashboard on construction so there'll
be a loom point or more likely a plug on the back of the stereo box.
A decent hi-fi shop should be able to sort it for you, I'd suggest
trying 3 or 4 before giving up completely.

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Matthew Maddock wrote:
> I'll give that a go. I've just been Googling so far, I can usually
> find the info on the Internet if something is do-able!
>
> The changer in the car is total crap, it jumps constantly -
> particularly on the French rural roads! so I'd be more than happy to
> dump it. The only problem I can see (if it was possible) is routing
> the cables back to the front to allow the iPod to be connected. As I
> understand it, the actual stereo unit is buried somewhere in the
> middle of the car!
> Matt.

You've got me curious now, what car is this?

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Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:

|| You need a better mobile then ;) My Motorola can happily negotiate a
|| connection with my GO

I have a Motorola V3i and although the two units will recognise each other
(phone reads Tom Tom, Tom Tom reads Motorola) they will not connect. TT
says phone has no Bluetooth features. Phone says it has. According to the
TT website, I need either a newer phone, or a newer TT, or both. And I
haven't had either of them a month yet! That's a shame, as handsfree was
one of the reasons I went for the Tom Tom over things like the Garmin Quest.

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Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
> Matthew Maddock wrote:
>> I'll give that a go. I've just been Googling so far, I can usually
>> find the info on the Internet if something is do-able!
>>
>> The changer in the car is total crap, it jumps constantly -
>> particularly on the French rural roads! so I'd be more than happy to
>> dump it. The only problem I can see (if it was possible) is routing
>> the cables back to the front to allow the iPod to be connected. As I
>> understand it, the actual stereo unit is buried somewhere in the
>> middle of the car!
>> Matt.
>
> You've got me curious now, what car is this?

It's an Espace. Typical French weirdness!

Matt
 
Matthew Maddock wrote:

|| Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
||| Matthew Maddock wrote:
|||| I'll give that a go. I've just been Googling so far, I can usually
|||| find the info on the Internet if something is do-able!
||||
|||| The changer in the car is total crap, it jumps constantly -
|||| particularly on the French rural roads! so I'd be more than happy
|||| to dump it. The only problem I can see (if it was possible) is
|||| routing the cables back to the front to allow the iPod to be
|||| connected. As I understand it, the actual stereo unit is buried
|||| somewhere in the middle of the car!
|||| Matt.
|||
||| You've got me curious now, what car is this?
||
|| It's an Espace. Typical French weirdness!
||
|| Matt

I got the same effect by mounting a CD player in the 90 on the dash, so it
was near-vertical. Smooth roads were fine, but the first sign of a bump and
it was all over the place. Like when we had a Dansette record-player when I
ws a kid and we delighted in jumping on the floor next to it - until parents
arrived and stopped the fun.

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On or around Wed, 3 May 2006 20:55:37 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
>
>|| You need a better mobile then ;) My Motorola can happily negotiate a
>|| connection with my GO
>
>I have a Motorola V3i and although the two units will recognise each other
>(phone reads Tom Tom, Tom Tom reads Motorola) they will not connect. TT
>says phone has no Bluetooth features. Phone says it has. According to the
>TT website, I need either a newer phone, or a newer TT, or both. And I
>haven't had either of them a month yet! That's a shame, as handsfree was
>one of the reasons I went for the Tom Tom over things like the Garmin Quest.

My latest mobile does weird things with the interweb. Unless of course O2's
download thing is just broken... It gets part way through the thing but then
when you request the page with the actual list of downloads on it, it says
"the page cannot be displayed".

It'll connect to the Beeb, for example.

might be 'cos it's a different handset, I suppose.
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Richard Brookman wrote:
> I have a Motorola V3i and although the two units will recognise each
> other (phone reads Tom Tom, Tom Tom reads Motorola) they will not
> connect. TT says phone has no Bluetooth features. Phone says it
> has. According to the TT website, I need either a newer phone, or a
> newer TT, or both. And I haven't had either of them a month yet! That's a
> shame, as handsfree was one of the reasons I went for the
> Tom Tom over things like the Garmin Quest.

Both my wife's bog standard V3 and my SLVR connect fine. You have 'enabled'
Bluetooth?

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Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:

|| Richard Brookman wrote:
||| I have a Motorola V3i and although the two units will recognise each
||| other (phone reads Tom Tom, Tom Tom reads Motorola) they will not
||| connect. TT says phone has no Bluetooth features. Phone says it
||| has. According to the TT website, I need either a newer phone, or a
||| newer TT, or both. And I haven't had either of them a month yet!
||| That's a shame, as handsfree was one of the reasons I went for the
||| Tom Tom over things like the Garmin Quest.
||
|| Both my wife's bog standard V3 and my SLVR connect fine. You have
|| 'enabled' Bluetooth?

Well, yes, otherwise the Tom Tom wouldn't recognise a "Motorola phone" in
the neighbourhood, I guess. And the Bluetooth spiky B is diplayed on the
handset. And the phone lists Tom Tom as a device after searching. It's
just that they won't talk beyond the intial handshake. Tom Tom says
connected device has no Bluetooth capability. On the site
http://www.tomtom.com/phones under V3i there are only green ticks against
the x10 Tom Toms (I assume the newest ones), not the 700.

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