The new LR2

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On 2006-07-12, Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> What is an SUV? Is it an acronym that we want to use here?


Silly Useless Vehicle is a perfectly acceptable term IMHO.

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:55:48 +0100, Dougal
<DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> helena wrote:
>
>> ................. people who lieve in cities or urban areas who want
>> an SUV that can do actual SUV type things

>
> What is an SUV? Is it an acronym that we want to use here?


We make allowances on usenet for our colonial cousins and their ways.

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William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 

helena wrote:
> Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the upcoming new
> LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova unveiling it in London -
> she and the Land Rover looked *great*! It seems kind of different from
> the other models in the Land Rover lineup - kind of like a more compact
> Range Rover Sport, I think. Seems like it will come with all kinds of
> neat features, I am especially interested in finding out more about
> this Terrain Response feature I read about in a blog. I read it's
> supposed to be available around Spring 07, I think? What do you guys
> think of it?


It depends what sort of guys!

The Land Rover originated just post WWII as the Rover company struggled
to stay alive. By hitting a radical new market (competent all rounder
on the farm as a horse/small tractor replacement and also usable as a
simple road vehicle) with (let's be honest, Brits) technology borrowed
heavily from the Willis Jeep, Rover created a real winner. There were
massive UK exports worldwide since, as a side effect, the Land Rover
became known as a benchmark expedition/harsh environment vehicle.
Since then, LR have moved up market (to project the image of a country
landowner, even if you aren't one) and also diversified into the new
SUV market (to project the image of an out of doors sportsman, even if
you aren't one) very successfully.

For those of us who are nostalgic about the UK's trail blazing past, or
want a real off road workhorse, the projection of an image is
irrelevant, and it's the real off road parameters that matter: adequate
engine power coupled as reliably as possible to the terrain via the
transmission/suspension etc, and clearance, balance, manoeuvrability
and strength to use that traction when you've got it there. Yes,
electronics can help a bit, although the big downside is the
maintainability, especially in more remote territory. I run an old
(nearly 40 years) Land Rover and there's nothing much I can't fix with
a simple tool kit and an AF socket set.

Despite my cycnicism about image, LR have worked hard to both to meet
the market perceptions and also to maintain their integrity in that
their newer vehicles are genuinely designed to be off road capable to
an appropriate degree.

So you'll get varying responses. From those like me for whom a trendy
image means nothing, the Freelander or LR2 are not likely to perform
like a Defender (or, perhaps, even a 101 Forward Control!) in a really
harsh environment and therefore not live up to either the nostalgia or
the definition of a real off road workhorse. Those more extreme than
me may have some harsh views!!

For a good picture of a 101 (the Land Rover I really covet!), btw, look
at http://www.winwaed.com/landy/history/fc101.shtml

For those who admire the new technology and the presentation, comfort,
and on road performance, the newer models are praiseworthy and LR
should be congratulated on having read the market so successfully.

Sadly, the environmental lobby against 4x4 is (perhaps justifiably)
targetting the use of 4x4s to project image rather than fulfil a real
need and, if they are successful, LR will have wedded itself to a
vanishing market.

 
helena wrote:
> Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the upcoming
> new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova unveiling it in
> London - she and the Land Rover looked *great*! It seems kind of
> different from the other models in the Land Rover lineup - kind of
> like a more compact Range Rover Sport, I think. Seems like it will
> come with all kinds of neat features, I am especially interested in
> finding out more about this Terrain Response feature I read about
> in a blog. I read it's supposed to be available around Spring 07, I
> think? What do you guys think of it?


WTF is a LR2????

Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought the D3 was the LR2 over the pond etc

Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.


 

Nige wrote:
> helena wrote:
> > Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the upcoming
> > new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova unveiling it in
> > London - she and the Land Rover looked *great*! It seems kind of
> > different from the other models in the Land Rover lineup - kind of
> > like a more compact Range Rover Sport, I think. Seems like it will
> > come with all kinds of neat features, I am especially interested in
> > finding out more about this Terrain Response feature I read about
> > in a blog. I read it's supposed to be available around Spring 07, I
> > think? What do you guys think of it?

>
> WTF is a LR2????
>
> Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought the D3 was the LR2 over the pond etc
>
> Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.


Who doesn't use a web based email account these days? Anybody? *shrug*


The LR2 is what it's going to be called when it's out here, as well.
That's what I'm referring to it as, since that's what I saw it called
around the web in articles, on Autoweek, etc. I think it's technically
more like a Range Rover Sport than a Freelander, though. I'm pretty
sure the Freelander is getting phased out of the lineup.

 
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 23:06:42 +0100, helena <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Nige wrote:
>> helena wrote:
>> > Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the upcoming
>> > new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova ...

>>
>> WTF is a LR2????
>>
>> Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought the D3
>> was the LR2 over the pond etc


Heh - I thought LR2 was code for the new Defender.

>> Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.

>
> Who doesn't use a web based email account these days? Anybody?


You really don't know? Most folk that wish to be taken (somewhat)
seriously - where appropriate.

> *shrug*
>


As you choose. Credibility is a fragile thing.

BTW - fit a V8 in one and bring it round here for an extended test drive.
About a month should do the job - I can promise a completely impartial
write up that will leave yer average auto-hack gasping.

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 
"ArthurC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It depends what sort of guys!


Well call me belt and braces but a IIa for sheer enjoyment and meccano
tinkering bolting things in that should not go in / won't fit depending on
who you speak to. Disco for towing our Caravan across Europe for our annual
migration, 101 because I can and to show I'm a complete traction-a-holic a
Fergie TEF20, now that really turned farming around in the war / post war
era.

Oh and a Renault to go fetch all the parts / EP90.

What would I like LR to churn out in the next 5 years? Something to compete
against the Navarna and L200 as presently LR has nothing in this league.

Lee D
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<http://www.lrproject.com/afl__101_owners_unofficial.htm>

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them enough rope and they'll be stuck in a ditch with alot of rope ;-) "


 
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:06:54 +0100, "William Tasso"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'd like to see how it performs after spending all day on the rough stuff
>and rolling around in the mud.


I reckon "just fine" and volunteer to test it out - dunno about the
Landie, though...


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On 11 Jul 2006 11:27:25 -0700, "helena" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I wonder if they can match one to *my* dress? :)


Send me a piccie and I'll let you know at the end of next week after
I've been down to the factory.


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In message <[email protected]>
Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> helena wrote:
>
> > ................. people who lieve in cities or urban areas who want
> > an SUV that can do actual SUV type things

>
> What is an SUV? Is it an acronym that we want to use here?


Stupid Useless Vehicle? Hence, not appropriate to (most) LR's ;-)

Richard
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LR2 is a Freelander. Disco 2 and Freelander 1 were so **** in Americy
that they had to rename the successors,


Nige wrote:
> helena wrote:
> > Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the upcoming
> > new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova unveiling it in
> > London - she and the Land Rover looked *great*! It seems kind of
> > different from the other models in the Land Rover lineup - kind of
> > like a more compact Range Rover Sport, I think. Seems like it will
> > come with all kinds of neat features, I am especially interested in
> > finding out more about this Terrain Response feature I read about
> > in a blog. I read it's supposed to be available around Spring 07, I
> > think? What do you guys think of it?

>
> WTF is a LR2????
>
> Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought the D3 was the LR2 over the pond etc
>
> Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.


 

Lee_D wrote:
> "ArthurC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > It depends what sort of guys!

>
> Well call me belt and braces but a IIa for sheer enjoyment and meccano
> tinkering bolting things in that should not go in / won't fit depending on
> who you speak to. Disco for towing our Caravan across Europe for our annual
> migration, 101 because I can and to show I'm a complete traction-a-holic a
> Fergie TEF20, now that really turned farming around in the war / post war
> era.


Yes, I think I said that farming turned Rover round, not the other way
(although the LR did make a contribution). Anyone else out there
remember TVO?

> Oh and a Renault to go fetch all the parts / EP90.


A what??

 

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> helena wrote:
>> Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the upcoming
>> new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova unveiling it in
>> London - she and the Land Rover looked *great*! It seems kind of
>> different from the other models in the Land Rover lineup - kind of
>> like a more compact Range Rover Sport, I think. Seems like it will
>> come with all kinds of neat features, I am especially interested in
>> finding out more about this Terrain Response feature I read about
>> in a blog. I read it's supposed to be available around Spring 07, I
>> think? What do you guys think of it?

>
> WTF is a LR2????
>
> Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought the D3 was
> the LR2 over the pond etc
>
> Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.

Nooo close but no cigar the Disco 3 in the US is the LR 3
http://www.landrover.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR3/Overview.htm the Furloader 2
here in the UK will be the LR2 in the US
http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR2/overview.htm
and in Walford the Defender3 will be known as............the East-Defender
cue music
I'll get me coat

Derek


 
Derek wrote:
> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> helena wrote:
>>> Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the
>>> upcoming new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova
>>> unveiling it in London - she and the Land Rover looked *great*! It seems kind of different from the
>>> other models in the Land
>>> Rover lineup - kind of like a more compact Range Rover Sport, I
>>> think. Seems like it will come with all kinds of neat features,
>>> I am especially interested in finding out more about this Terrain
>>> Response feature I read about in a blog. I read it's supposed to
>>> be available around Spring 07, I think? What do you guys think of
>>> it?

>>
>> WTF is a LR2????
>>
>> Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought
>> the D3 was the LR2 over the pond etc
>>
>> Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.

> Nooo close but no cigar the Disco 3 in the US is the LR 3
> http://www.landrover.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR3/Overview.htm the
> Furloader 2 here in the UK will be the LR2 in the US
> http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR2/overview.htm
> and in Walford the Defender3 will be known as............the
> East-Defender cue music
> I'll get me coat
>
> Derek


Wanna buy a bike Derek?


 

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Derek wrote:
>> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> helena wrote:
>>>> Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the
>>>> upcoming new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova
>>>> unveiling it in London - she and the Land Rover looked *great*! It
>>>> seems kind of different from the other models in the Land
>>>> Rover lineup - kind of like a more compact Range Rover Sport, I
>>>> think. Seems like it will come with all kinds of neat features,
>>>> I am especially interested in finding out more about this Terrain
>>>> Response feature I read about in a blog. I read it's supposed to
>>>> be available around Spring 07, I think? What do you guys think of
>>>> it?
>>>
>>> WTF is a LR2????
>>>
>>> Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought
>>> the D3 was the LR2 over the pond etc
>>>
>>> Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.

>> Nooo close but no cigar the Disco 3 in the US is the LR 3
>> http://www.landrover.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR3/Overview.htm the
>> Furloader 2 here in the UK will be the LR2 in the US
>> http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR2/overview.htm
>> and in Walford the Defender3 will be known as............the
>> East-Defender cue music
>> I'll get me coat
>>
>> Derek

>
> Wanna buy a bike Derek?

No ta mate I'm getting a bit old for that game I nipped round the spares on
the stepdaughters pushbike I may never be the same again so motorbike ?
computer says no.
Derek


 
Derek wrote:
> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Derek wrote:
>>> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> helena wrote:
>>>>> Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the
>>>>> upcoming new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova
>>>>> unveiling it in London - she and the Land Rover looked *great*!
>>>>> It seems kind of different from the other models in the Land
>>>>> Rover lineup - kind of like a more compact Range Rover Sport, I
>>>>> think. Seems like it will come with all kinds of neat features,
>>>>> I am especially interested in finding out more about this
>>>>> Terrain Response feature I read about in a blog. I read it's
>>>>> supposed to be available around Spring 07, I think? What do you
>>>>> guys think of it?
>>>>
>>>> WTF is a LR2????
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought
>>>> the D3 was the LR2 over the pond etc
>>>>
>>>> Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.
>>> Nooo close but no cigar the Disco 3 in the US is the LR 3
>>> http://www.landrover.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR3/Overview.htm the
>>> Furloader 2 here in the UK will be the LR2 in the US
>>> http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR2/overview.htm
>>> and in Walford the Defender3 will be known as............the
>>> East-Defender cue music
>>> I'll get me coat
>>>
>>> Derek

>>
>> Wanna buy a bike Derek?

> No ta mate I'm getting a bit old for that game I nipped round the
> spares on the stepdaughters pushbike I may never be the same again
> so motorbike ? computer says no.
> Derek


I can picture the scene Derek!! I bet it even had a Girly crossbar!!!

Nige


 

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Derek wrote:
>> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Derek wrote:
>>>> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> helena wrote:
>>>>>> Have you guys seen some of the stuff (pics, etc) about the
>>>>>> upcoming new LR2? I saw some pictures of Maria Sharapova
>>>>>> unveiling it in London - she and the Land Rover looked *great*!
>>>>>> It seems kind of different from the other models in the Land
>>>>>> Rover lineup - kind of like a more compact Range Rover Sport, I
>>>>>> think. Seems like it will come with all kinds of neat features,
>>>>>> I am especially interested in finding out more about this
>>>>>> Terrain Response feature I read about in a blog. I read it's
>>>>>> supposed to be available around Spring 07, I think? What do you
>>>>>> guys think of it?
>>>>>
>>>>> WTF is a LR2????
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean Discovery 3 ??? Or the Freelander 2 ????? I thought
>>>>> the D3 was the LR2 over the pond etc
>>>>>
>>>>> Hotmail account? looks suspect to me.
>>>> Nooo close but no cigar the Disco 3 in the US is the LR 3
>>>> http://www.landrover.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR3/Overview.htm the
>>>> Furloader 2 here in the UK will be the LR2 in the US
>>>> http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR2/overview.htm
>>>> and in Walford the Defender3 will be known as............the
>>>> East-Defender cue music
>>>> I'll get me coat
>>>>
>>>> Derek
>>>
>>> Wanna buy a bike Derek?

>> No ta mate I'm getting a bit old for that game I nipped round the
>> spares on the stepdaughters pushbike I may never be the same again
>> so motorbike ? computer says no.
>> Derek

>
> I can picture the scene Derek!! I bet it even had a Girly crossbar!!!
>
> Nige

OOh bitchy, mountain bike 18 gears ( I used 3 ) razor blade for a seat no
mudguards tyres with Landy tread depth and a frame too small for yr truly
beauty of getting older tho is I'm getting shorter down to 5'10 now Ronnie
Corbett look out

Derek


 
"ChavScum" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> helena wrote:
>> I still think the Terrain response feature is pretty nifty and
>> innovative, and the thing is, I'd never really offroad that hardcore
>> with one anyway - and iirc, I think the Terrain Response will actually
>> adjust the chassis, etc, depending on what you're on - I feel like that
>> would help a lot. And, I just think that's neat. I think the
>> brilliance, from a marketing perspective, of the LR2 is that it is
>> meant appeal to people beyond a, shall we say, offroading base. I think
>> the LR2 is going to be one of those vehicles that would get people to
>> buy the Land Rover brand who might necessarily never have found one
>> appealing before - people who lieve in cities or urban areas who want
>> an SUV that can do actual SUV type things if they need or want it to,
>> but still works in an urban enviroment. I especially like all the extra
>> high tech features of it (keyless entry, Bluetooth, sat nav with a DVD
>> quality screen, etc) too. I think it will do very well. I'd like to
>> check one out myself, definitely, when they are out.

>
> Is this a wind-up? This reads more like a viral marketing campaign
> that a sensible post. Oh, Helena is in marketing - hence the
> incontinent stream of steaming verbage above.
>
> You're talking to the wrong people luv. It's a bit like trying to sell
> Yamahas to Harley fans.


Amazing what an easy ride you get with an apparently female ID.

Jeremy

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