TD5 99 - run out of diesel & will not start....!

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peterd

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Help me please..

OK my fault it run out of diesel (lack of dough) - so put 10 litres in tank
and turned the engine over till battery went flat...any suggestions VERY
MUCH WELCOME...cheers

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Peter - UK


 
OOPS
I guess this will need priming to remove air from the fuelines.

peterd wrote:
> Help me please..
>
> OK my fault it run out of diesel (lack of dough) - so put 10 litres in tank
> and turned the engine over till battery went flat...any suggestions VERY
> MUCH WELCOME...cheers
>


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On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:45:09 +0000 (UTC), "peterd"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Help me please..
>
>OK my fault it run out of diesel (lack of dough) - so put 10 litres in tank
>and turned the engine over till battery went flat...any suggestions VERY
>MUCH WELCOME...cheers


Hmmm, surprised it doesn't self prime (thought most modern diesels
did), but it sounds as though you need to prime the pump.

I'm entirely guessing here, but the procedure on my old Series 2 was
to crack off one injector then pump the little handle on the injection
pump until you get diesel coming out of the injector.

Tighten up the injector and I'd expect it to start.

TD5 may be totally different though - not sure how they deliver fuel,
but I'll bet there's a computer in there somewhere. They have
fly-by-wire throttle for a start don't they?


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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
Check the owners manual but from memory you need to tell the ECU to initiate
priming

1. turn ignition on for three minutes
2. turn off
3. hold accelerator pedal full down and turn ignition back on
4. crank for 30 seconds at time, 1 minute between
5. release accelerator pedal when it starts

Robert


"peterd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Help me please..
>
> OK my fault it run out of diesel (lack of dough) - so put 10 litres in
> tank and turned the engine over till battery went flat...any suggestions
> VERY MUCH WELCOME...cheers
>
> --
> Peter - UK
>



 
On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:24:49 +0100, Martin Lewis wrote:

> You'll need to purge the fuel rail of air, method on my web site:
> http://www.web-rover.co.uk/nav.php?p=td5kb/fuelpurge


Curiously my book (2001 TD5 Disco II) is slightly different to that
and the previously posted method:

1) Refill with at least 1 gallon of fuel. Doh!
2) Turn off for >15s.
3) Turn on to position II wait 30s.
4) Repeat 2 & 3 six times.
5) After final 30s period fully depress the accelerator.
6) Keeping pedal depressed crank the engine.
7) Continue cranking, as soon as the engine is firing smoothly ease
the accelerator back to approx 50% and release the starter key. The
engine should no be running.
8) If the engine fails to start, repeat the above.

Variations in the ECU programming?

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"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Curiously my book (2001 TD5 Disco II) is slightly different to that
> and the previously posted method:
>
> 1) Refill with at least 1 gallon of fuel. Doh!
> 2) Turn off for >15s.
> 3) Turn on to position II wait 30s.
> 4) Repeat 2 & 3 six times.
> 5) After final 30s period fully depress the accelerator.
> 6) Keeping pedal depressed crank the engine.
> 7) Continue cranking, as soon as the engine is firing smoothly ease
> the accelerator back to approx 50% and release the starter key. The
> engine should no be running.
> 8) If the engine fails to start, repeat the above.
>
> Variations in the ECU programming?


Hmm.. dunno - there do seem to be small differences between the Disco and
Defender methods, but I can't find a reference to the 50% release figure in
my books! Land Rover, eh? :eek:)

However I've not used the official LR method when priming my Td5 (now done
twice..) - I've used the method I 'found' which is the 'unofficial' one on
my site. Works for me ;o)

Martin
--
1988 90 Td5 Converted NAS Replica
www.web-rover.co.uk


 
Hi

Thank you all for replying to my question - it started today - cheers
Kind Regards



Peter ]]]>>




6) Keeping pedal depressed crank the engine.
>> 7) Continue cranking, as soon as the engine is firing smoothly ease
>> the accelerator back to approx 50% and release the starter key. The
>> engine should no be running.
>> 8) If the engine fails to start, repeat the above.
>>
>> Variations in the ECU programming?

>
> Hmm.. dunno - there do seem to be small differences between the Disco and
> Defender methods, but I can't find a reference to the 50% release figure
> in my books! Land Rover, eh? :eek:)
>
> However I've not used the official LR method when priming my Td5 (now done
> twice..) - I've used the method I 'found' which is the 'unofficial' one on
> my site. Works for me ;o)
>
> Martin
> --
> 1988 90 Td5 Converted NAS Replica
> www.web-rover.co.uk
>



 
On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:35:17 +0100, Martin Lewis wrote:

> > Variations in the ECU programming?

>
> Hmm.. dunno - there do seem to be small differences between the
> Disco and Defender methods,


I guess there could be other gubbins as well, or just the way
valves/pressure relief dubries that are commanded open by the ECU at
switch on then close a number of seconds later. The repeated slow
switching on/off would ensure a good few cycles of that to rid the
system of air.

> but I can't find a reference to the 50% release figure in my books!
> Land Rover, eh? :eek:)


My book says "approximately halfway", I called it 50%... However it's
not just Land Rover, I don't think any car maker truely knows how
*all* parts of a car they make work in reality.

> However I've not used the official LR method when priming my Td5
> (now done twice..) - I've used the method I 'found' which is the
> 'unofficial' one on my site. Works for me ;o)


Curiosly it's the sort of default "how to start a motor that has no
faults but refuses to start normally" routine. Do things slowly, push
the accelorator fully and crank until it goes, easing up the pedal as
the engine sorts itself out, normally in clouds of smoke.

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Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
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